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Old 03-15-2016, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by disillusioned
I'm confused?? I thought the forums were not an official communication source for SAPA? And yet that is the way a majority of our group gets their information?

Still no meeting notes since Oct of last year, no information on policies that SAPA is voting on or considering and when someone tries to ask on the forums they are personally attacked by current SAPA members.

I'm not a black helicopter type, but it would be really nice to have some transparency on what is going on. What's the status on the pilots that were bypassed to the 175? What is being proposed by the company for the 91 flying by retired pilots and cadets that are building hours? What is being done about PBS after TC did his research? So many questions, so much silence....
No confusion necessary, how much did you pay in SAPA dues last year? SKYW paid 7 figures in SAPA dues, now you know who they work for.....
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Old 03-15-2016, 09:15 AM
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No confusion necessary, how much did you pay in SAPA dues last year? SKYW paid 7 figures in SAPA dues, now you know who they work for.....

And seven figures paid to F & H. Don't forget that.
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Old 03-15-2016, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by trip
Too bad the pilots have to find out via inflight chief email to flight attendants.
Reason #243 why our current flight ops leadership needs a makeover.

Must be trying to put an "industry leading" spin on it somehow.

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Disregard, looks like it was sent out.
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Old 03-15-2016, 11:23 AM
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So looks like they don't know if IAH will close yet, but they'll at least keep it open throughout 2016. I upgraded out of IAH. Was hoping to get it back as it's an easy commute. Guess I'll get comfy in ORD.


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Old 03-15-2016, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by disillusioned
I'm confused?? I thought the forums were not an official communication source for SAPA? And yet that is the way a majority of our group gets their information?

Still no meeting notes since Oct of last year, no information on policies that SAPA is voting on or considering and when someone tries to ask on the forums they are personally attacked by current SAPA members.

I'm not a black helicopter type, but it would be really nice to have some transparency on what is going on. What's the status on the pilots that were bypassed to the 175? What is being proposed by the company for the 91 flying by retired pilots and cadets that are building hours? What is being done about PBS after TC did his research? So many questions, so much silence....
Many, many, more PDX FOs and now CAs are being bypassed AGAIN for the two April classes. Sliding in those JR 175 pilots to avoid spending $$ running transition classes. Sapa is "speechless". CCB called it......good old "company need"
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Old 03-16-2016, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by trip
Too bad the pilots have to find out via inflight chief email to flight attendants.
The pilots were sent an email from TG.
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Old 03-16-2016, 09:11 AM
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The pilots were sent an email from TG.
I'm really surprised he didn't throw in a "we really need some reserves this weekend" at the end. I think that's the only thing I have ever heard from him.

I know 5 people that all had April class dates that are now looking elsewhere.
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Old 03-16-2016, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Is offline

I know 5 people that all had April class dates that are now looking elsewhere.
One might think, that with the "SGU is at the center of the universe" mentality, they might be cognizant of the realities of flushing seniority down the toilet. People actually pay attention and the interwebs make it easy to look stuff up.
The irony of offering bonuses based upon type ratings and flushing seniority with the other hand and expecting no one to notice, priceless.
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Old 03-16-2016, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom
One might think, that with the "SGU is at the center of the universe" mentality, they might be cognizant of the realities of flushing seniority down the toilet. People actually pay attention and the interwebs make it easy to look stuff up.
The irony of offering bonuses based upon type ratings and flushing seniority with the other hand and expecting no one to notice, priceless.
Well Envoys new campaign to promote how they are hiring into the 175 shows that is one factor to consider for new hires and where they go. Even though seniority progression would be way faster on the CRJ, you have people that just want to fly the new plane. That is why the company is still hiring into the 175 and leaving the CRJ thin. Well that and the fact that we don't have anything that would stop them from blocking transitions other than a pat on the back and a promise that "We'll take care of you eventually" from management.

I've bumped up about 20 or so numbers since the first of the month and we have a bunch still out there with class dates. I'm not sure why they insist on taking those that are on the fence about leaving and giving them a big shove in the back. Those that are going to leave will still leave, but they are giving all the incentive needed to those that haven't updated their log books to get out and apply.
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Old 03-16-2016, 11:04 AM
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I know 5 people that all had April class dates that are now looking elsewhere.

At least they had a chance to consider their options rather than joining and then discovering that IAH is "at risk".

What I find more disturbing is that SGU was so surprised by this shift of flying in IAH. Everyone with a clear view on the UA regional model and a UA 10K in hand will figure out that there will be very few 700's left in the UA feeder fleet very soon. Probably just enough to fly ASE.
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