nopantsILS

I dunno, I might say go for the 175 at this point.

The fleet is doubling, many FO's wont bid it because it's either not in their base or the seatlock would prevent upgrade. That could all change at the drop of a hat..... It's going to shake things up one way or another.

elmetal

I would agree. Couple with the fact that every single month our pairings deteriorate and theirs gets better. Not to mention 20+ airplanes between now and end of year...

GiggidyGone

I've asked the same question for months, why 40% reserve staffing in ORD on 175 but the rest of the ERJ domicile are below min reserves months after month. Well last standing bid, every single person that wanted out of ORD on the ERJ was awarded elsewhere and got out. I don't think the issue is with SGU, ORD 175 guys don't want to transfer out. The only fix is to force guys out of ORD who don't currently have a standing bid to leave.

The past few new hire classes aren't even touching ORD on the ERJ. The needs are all West coast.


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elmetal

Plenty of guys with bids. By keeping everyone there, no one elsewhere can drop, and reserves from ORD get sent everywhere to cover flying that could have been dropped if staffed properly.

It's a way for the company to post even less, because we wipe our user time as fast as it accrues, when it should be free to drop a trip

GiggidyGone

You missed it.... After the standing bid closed last month, there were not any ORD FO's on the 175 that didn't get there requested transfer out. Even currently, there are not enough ORD 175 guys with bids to leave that would even help the issue with reserve numbers out West.

As the bid stands today, only a handful of guys have a bid to leave ORD for another domicile. So unless we start forcing guys out of domicile we won't have proper staffing in October in the other domiciles.


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elmetal

So how do we explain why they weren't all transferred, oh, 12 months ago?

Oh right, because if they had, reserve staffing would've been perfect at the time.

disillusioned

Quick peak at the ORD transfer shows about 10 that want to transfer out west. Or we could let the pilots transition that are already out west that want the 175. Or we could do it "the way we always have" and give Delta benefits to ALL 175 pilots and you would see the 175 go way senior out west.

Some want to fly, others are fine staying on reserve and not fly at all. But SGU doesn't care what the pilots want to do. I agree that they want to keep the reserves low so you have to call in and burn user time to get any time at home.

Now to finish my line and figure out how I am going to fit 48 hours of flying in with my 9 days of pre-assignments, since my line won't finish without awarding me 90 hours of flying. I just have to figure out which of our bases I fill like sitting in for 4 hours in between flights. Or figure out which trip I am going to bid that I will call in for to use what little user time I have left.

GiggidyGone

12 months ago SkyWest was trying to position to get flying from UA in Chicago which fell through and ended up going to Mesa and Republic. So the idea that SkyWest magically said lets put 50% reserve staffing in Chicago and not use the guys and just lay them to sit at home was most likely not the thought process.

It's funny you think that way, 12 months ago LAX didn't exist. PDX had barely and 175's and SEA had only a few as well. We got DL flying announced a year ago and Just 3 months ago finally got official word SEA and LAX is where they were going and we still don't know how many are going to LAX and when. So how sir do we magically predict the future and put pilots places where we don't yet know for sure we will need them????

I'll wait.


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elmetal

You honestly think they didn't know sea and lax a year ago?

Don't be so naive.

Or did you not think they knew about Houston closing when they initially sent the secret email about losing Mexico flying ? Which only came after months of rumors being confirmed via uniteds reservation system and Mesa crews.


Your can't possibly be that naive.

disillusioned

Maybe if we stopped sending emails to only a certain group of pilots and sent them to the entire pilot group? Or transition all the pilots that wanted to stay west instead of filling classes with new hires in the 175? Or offer a temporary transfer for those that are trying to build time and only have 150 hours for the year?

We have a certain group of about 22 pilots that make all the excuses in the world for SGU. They don't need any help.