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#2631
Banned
Joined APC: Aug 2015
Position: Lots
Posts: 175
A regional route is any route that the majors gave to a regional airline. For now, they still control them. Not sure about delta because United is my goal but United has about 100 additional 737 and 320 aircraft arriving on property as we speak and over the next few years to get rid of over 50% of its 50 and 70 seat aircraft market. Good for us, bad for those who can't move on. The regional era is changing rapidly. Bigger planes but many less.
#2632
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jul 2015
Position: Bug smasher Captain
Posts: 16
Hey guys, newhire on the CRJ here, starting next month. Anyone have a good breakdown on realistic take home pay for a junior ORD FO? I'm planning on moving/living in base and I'll be trying to fly/credit as much as I can. I just want to get a little budget going and I'm trying to get a sense from people already on property as to what's realistic for year 1. Thanks!
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#2635
Here let me remind you of something you said- "And delta has already started replacing regional routes." And now you say you are not sure about Delta because United is your goal. Helps to keep your made up stories straight when trying to make a point.
OK, first of all, there is no such thing as a "regional" route. All routes are those of the "major" who codeshares it. Are you just figuring out that the airline business changes rapidly? That is the way it has been since commercial air travel started.
OK, first of all, there is no such thing as a "regional" route. All routes are those of the "major" who codeshares it. Are you just figuring out that the airline business changes rapidly? That is the way it has been since commercial air travel started.
I know we have taken back some of the stuff out of sfo, den, and ord (eug, psp, sea, pdx, msn, mke, rno, dfw, aus, phx) and on and on. It's a pendulum that is swinging in the shift towards mainline.
I think the sgu's and devils lakes are safe though for the time being.
#2636
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2015
Position: Downward Dog
Posts: 1,875
Speaking of SGU, looks like they worked another direct flight. (PHX)
#2637
Then there's per diem on top of that. If you pick up extra flying, of course, that too is paid extra. Once you're holding a line, though, it's hard to pick up significant extra flying because your line will be built to 95+ hours anyways, and you'll find that legality issues can prevent you from picking up a large amount of extra time.
As a rough estimation, if you just plan on flying the bare minimum, then take your hourly rate and multiply by 1000, and that's your pre-tax yearly pay. I have seen guys who are glued to their phones and have mobile SkedPlus alerts set up, who pick up all the time-and-a-half flying they can and credit 150 hours a month. However, you have to have absolutely no life outside work (this is virtually impossible to do well as a commuter –– you have to live in base to make this work like these guys do), and you have to be prepared to time out towards the end of the year and sit around without getting paid. (Of course, the hours you credit have no bearing on legality...legality is all about block hours. But at some point if you're crediting 150+ hours a month, you're probably flying close to the maximum block hours/ FDP hours.)
Anyhow, plan on $36,500 pre-tax pay your first year and you won't be disappointed.
#2638
Banned
Joined APC: Aug 2015
Position: Lots
Posts: 175
Here let me remind you of something you said- "And delta has already started replacing regional routes." And now you say you are not sure about Delta because United is your goal. Helps to keep your made up stories straight when trying to make a point.
OK, first of all, there is no such thing as a "regional" route. All routes are those of the "major" who codeshares it. Are you just figuring out that the airline business changes rapidly? That is the way it has been since commercial air travel started.
OK, first of all, there is no such thing as a "regional" route. All routes are those of the "major" who codeshares it. Are you just figuring out that the airline business changes rapidly? That is the way it has been since commercial air travel started.
#2639
I watch the UA flying more closely. RJdio pointed out the DL stuff. I watch the UA stuff. 100 airplanes coming to replace regional flying. They have already started flying 737s into places like Madison and Wichita. That trend will continue as the regionals become shadows of their former selves. You can hang on and watch your relative seniority backslide or you can move on. Of course, the odds are against many and not everyone can move on. For many, they may even settle for less such as virgin, atlas, jet blue, southwest and so on. But even then, it's better than being at a dying regional.
You're a joke dude.
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