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Old 08-08-2016, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
We'll flow through it exactly as we have started ramping up MONTHS ago. Couple that with xjt and Mesa, and there's your answer
There will be no flowing thru once the 700's are gone from United at the end of the year. It's not only going to hurt Houston but all bases that the 700 operates on United.
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Old 08-08-2016, 10:08 AM
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This is all very simple. All but 7 or so of our UA 700s are going away and are being - partially - replaced by 175. If you look at the UA 10K you can figure out that pretty much all capacity up to the scope limit is spoken for.

UA has chosen Mesa for IAH. So there may be the eventual flow through from one of our other bases. But don't expect to see many 700's in UA colors by end of next year. And unless IAH will become a 175 base I don't see a scenario where it remains open.

On that note, do not expect to see much of our 700 capacity to resurface elsewhere. yes, some DL 700s are being replaced with of contract UA 700s but that is a left pocket right pocket game. Our overall 700 fleet will go down. For reference, look at our last two earning calls and the one time write off we took for early lease terminations. That's for 700s that we wish to place but apparently are not confident enough in so that we had to take a hit under SEC rules.
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Old 08-08-2016, 10:10 AM
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There will be no flowing thru once the 700's are gone from United at the end of the year. It's not only going to hurt Houston but all bases that the 700 operates on United.
Yeah United isn't renewing their 700's under new contracts right?
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Old 08-08-2016, 10:12 AM
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Pretty sure aspen is the only reason they're not all going away.
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Old 08-08-2016, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Is offline
The relevance is I have a problem with the company paying to sponsor some foreign pilots visa when they refuse to pay fair wages.

I seriously doubt that the company sponsors visa's for foreign pilots. But I may be wrong.

You also make the - probably false - assumption that everyone with English as a second language is here on a visa or sponsored for a visa...

This is very simplistic and probably way off.....
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Old 08-08-2016, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by C172
Yeah United isn't renewing their 700's under new contracts right?
They cannot. They are hitting the scope limit. No way for them to renew ...
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Old 08-08-2016, 10:16 AM
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They cannot. They are hitting the scope limit. No way for them to renew ...
Ok, so where are MESAs 175s going?
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Old 08-08-2016, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
Pretty sure aspen is the only reason they're not all going away.
I think the primary reason that they aren't all going away right away is that the contract for them lasts beyond 2017 - just look at the contract page on SWOL. It basically shows how many UA 700s expire when. And even though the numbers are somewhat dated, they appear to be accurate when it comes to teh UA 700s.
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Old 08-08-2016, 10:17 AM
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Ok, so where are MESAs 175s going?
IAH

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Old 08-08-2016, 10:18 AM
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IAH

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So still IAH but no longer a base?
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