Skywest v2.0
06-05-2016, 02:33 PM
#1501
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2012
Position: ERJ
Posts: 383
One of my CRJ classmates bid for LAX and got it one month and a half after completing IOE (last month). I would say your chances of bidding for it successfully and receiving it within less than a year are fairly good ceteris paribus.
06-05-2016, 02:48 PM
#1502
On Reserve
Joined APC: Sep 2015
Position: PC-12 FO
Posts: 10
Doesn't sound so bad. Thanks for the info!
06-05-2016, 03:42 PM
#1503
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: 737
Posts: 1,136
I wish it was a myth. Unfortunately, United has a boat load of 737s and Airbus coming to replace regional flying, and specifically many of the crjs. So it's only a matter of time now and not if but when. On the united videos that we can watch, they outline the plan. So I'm thinking my upgrade will be a while.
United et al have jets coming because they know their regional partners can't staff their fleet. The -200 is the new Brasilia. SkyWest will keep it flying because they make money on them and we'll keep flying as many as we can staff. Although some -700 are being parked or brought to other paint, there is no scope limit on the 50 seaters. You and others keep saying the sky is falling, but it's not. If you want a pilot job, you can have a pilot job. In other words, SkyWest will shrink, not because of what United tells us what to fly. We'll shrink when we can't find enough pilots. At least until the next big economic downturn.
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06-05-2016, 05:24 PM
#1504
Line Holder
Joined APC: Nov 2015
Posts: 48
New Guy here,
I currently live in Houston & hoping to hold IAH eventually, but some have warned me it is a shrinking base and that alot of the 700s are leaving IAH and leading to a possible closure eventually. (I don't necessarily hope to hold IAH for a CA upgrade one day, but my goal is to live on base here at least while im an FO).
What are my best resources for understanding base shrinkage?
...I've heard many things from other friends warning me that trying to hold IAH is a dumb thing to do (1 SLC Skywest FO, a few envoy guys, and a mutual friend at Delta)... honestly i'm just not even sure what to look for or what questions to ask when considering whether trying to hold a line at IAH is a poor decision or not. Any help?
(yes I used search function, only found page 18 of this thread and one other page of relevance).
Thanks in advance, and sorry if this was a stupid question.
I currently live in Houston & hoping to hold IAH eventually, but some have warned me it is a shrinking base and that alot of the 700s are leaving IAH and leading to a possible closure eventually. (I don't necessarily hope to hold IAH for a CA upgrade one day, but my goal is to live on base here at least while im an FO).
What are my best resources for understanding base shrinkage?
...I've heard many things from other friends warning me that trying to hold IAH is a dumb thing to do (1 SLC Skywest FO, a few envoy guys, and a mutual friend at Delta)... honestly i'm just not even sure what to look for or what questions to ask when considering whether trying to hold a line at IAH is a poor decision or not. Any help?
(yes I used search function, only found page 18 of this thread and one other page of relevance).
Thanks in advance, and sorry if this was a stupid question.
06-05-2016, 06:02 PM
#1505
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: 737
Posts: 1,136
New Guy here,
I currently live in Houston & hoping to hold IAH eventually, but some have warned me it is a shrinking base and that alot of the 700s are leaving IAH and leading to a possible closure eventually. (I don't necessarily hope to hold IAH for a CA upgrade one day, but my goal is to live on base here at least while im an FO).
What are my best resources for understanding base shrinkage?
...I've heard many things from other friends warning me that trying to hold IAH is a dumb thing to do (1 SLC Skywest FO, a few envoy guys, and a mutual friend at Delta)... honestly i'm just not even sure what to look for or what questions to ask when considering whether trying to hold a line at IAH is a poor decision or not. Any help?
(yes I used search function, only found page 18 of this thread and one other page of relevance).
Thanks in advance, and sorry if this was a stupid question.
I currently live in Houston & hoping to hold IAH eventually, but some have warned me it is a shrinking base and that alot of the 700s are leaving IAH and leading to a possible closure eventually. (I don't necessarily hope to hold IAH for a CA upgrade one day, but my goal is to live on base here at least while im an FO).
What are my best resources for understanding base shrinkage?
...I've heard many things from other friends warning me that trying to hold IAH is a dumb thing to do (1 SLC Skywest FO, a few envoy guys, and a mutual friend at Delta)... honestly i'm just not even sure what to look for or what questions to ask when considering whether trying to hold a line at IAH is a poor decision or not. Any help?
(yes I used search function, only found page 18 of this thread and one other page of relevance).
Thanks in advance, and sorry if this was a stupid question.
06-05-2016, 06:36 PM
#1506
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2016
Position: 737
Posts: 62
So 12 guys you have flown with in a pilot group are complaining about not getting called? Sorry man but 3 months is nothing and the amount of people you have flown with is a minuscule percentage of the entire pilot group. People are getting hired right and left. I just got a class date and I'm an FO with no military. The hiring is happening.
06-05-2016, 06:37 PM
#1507
Dumb Pilot
Joined APC: Apr 2013
Position: Broke
Posts: 784
New Guy here,
I currently live in Houston & hoping to hold IAH eventually, but some have warned me it is a shrinking base and that alot of the 700s are leaving IAH and leading to a possible closure eventually. (I don't necessarily hope to hold IAH for a CA upgrade one day, but my goal is to live on base here at least while im an FO).
What are my best resources for understanding base shrinkage?
...I've heard many things from other friends warning me that trying to hold IAH is a dumb thing to do (1 SLC Skywest FO, a few envoy guys, and a mutual friend at Delta)... honestly i'm just not even sure what to look for or what questions to ask when considering whether trying to hold a line at IAH is a poor decision or not. Any help?
(yes I used search function, only found page 18 of this thread and one other page of relevance).
Thanks in advance, and sorry if this was a stupid question.
I currently live in Houston & hoping to hold IAH eventually, but some have warned me it is a shrinking base and that alot of the 700s are leaving IAH and leading to a possible closure eventually. (I don't necessarily hope to hold IAH for a CA upgrade one day, but my goal is to live on base here at least while im an FO).
What are my best resources for understanding base shrinkage?
...I've heard many things from other friends warning me that trying to hold IAH is a dumb thing to do (1 SLC Skywest FO, a few envoy guys, and a mutual friend at Delta)... honestly i'm just not even sure what to look for or what questions to ask when considering whether trying to hold a line at IAH is a poor decision or not. Any help?
(yes I used search function, only found page 18 of this thread and one other page of relevance).
Thanks in advance, and sorry if this was a stupid question.
Do not go to Mesa. That is a 50% pay cut compared to here.
06-05-2016, 07:01 PM
#1508
Banned
Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 294
United et al have jets coming because they know their regional partners can't staff their fleet. The -200 is the new Brasilia. SkyWest will keep it flying because they make money on them and we'll keep flying as many as we can staff. Although some -700 are being parked or brought to other paint, there is no scope limit on the 50 seaters. You and others keep saying the sky is falling, but it's not. If you want a pilot job, you can have a pilot job. In other words, SkyWest will shrink, not because of what United tells us what to fly. We'll shrink when we can't find enough pilots. At least until the next big economic downturn.
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50 seaters are capped at 90% of the total narrow body fleet. ~475 total, that's if the whole UAX fleet was 50 seaters but it's not. So for every 76 seater, roughly ~2 50 seaters get removed. There is also a cap on the total RJs based on the total narrow body fleet.
The fact that JB22 watched the united network planning videos tells me he's not much of a troll at all. FYI the current plan is to shrink the RJ flying by 30% over the next 5 years and in a month or 2 there will be no RJs flying bewtween UAL hubs. Keep trolling the the lifers JB22!
06-05-2016, 07:19 PM
#1509
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: 737
Posts: 1,136
And.........your wrong.
50 seaters are capped at 90% of the total narrow body fleet. ~475 total, that's if the whole UAX fleet was 50 seaters but it's not. So for every 76 seater, roughly ~2 50 seaters get removed. There is also a cap on the total RJs based on the total narrow body fleet.
The fact that JB22 watched the united network planning videos tells me he's not much of a troll at all. FYI the current plan is to shrink the RJ flying by 30% over the next 5 years and in a month or 2 there will be no RJs flying bewtween UAL hubs. Keep trolling the the lifers JB22!
50 seaters are capped at 90% of the total narrow body fleet. ~475 total, that's if the whole UAX fleet was 50 seaters but it's not. So for every 76 seater, roughly ~2 50 seaters get removed. There is also a cap on the total RJs based on the total narrow body fleet.
The fact that JB22 watched the united network planning videos tells me he's not much of a troll at all. FYI the current plan is to shrink the RJ flying by 30% over the next 5 years and in a month or 2 there will be no RJs flying bewtween UAL hubs. Keep trolling the the lifers JB22!
06-05-2016, 07:19 PM
#1510
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2015
Posts: 472
And.........your wrong.
50 seaters are capped at 90% of the total narrow body fleet. ~475 total, that's if the whole UAX fleet was 50 seaters but it's not. So for every 76 seater, roughly ~2 50 seaters get removed. There is also a cap on the total RJs based on the total narrow body fleet.
The fact that JB22 watched the united network planning videos tells me he's not much of a troll at all. FYI the current plan is to shrink the RJ flying by 30% over the next 5 years and in a month or 2 there will be no RJs flying bewtween UAL hubs. Keep trolling the the lifers JB22!
50 seaters are capped at 90% of the total narrow body fleet. ~475 total, that's if the whole UAX fleet was 50 seaters but it's not. So for every 76 seater, roughly ~2 50 seaters get removed. There is also a cap on the total RJs based on the total narrow body fleet.
The fact that JB22 watched the united network planning videos tells me he's not much of a troll at all. FYI the current plan is to shrink the RJ flying by 30% over the next 5 years and in a month or 2 there will be no RJs flying bewtween UAL hubs. Keep trolling the the lifers JB22!
That may all be true.
But why would anyone stop the RJ flying as long as it can be staffed, there is gate space and there are new routes where marginal revenue exceeds marginal cost?
Many former RJ routes may go mainline. But there are plenty of Nowhere Nebraskas out there that an RJ can and will go to. Just look at all the EAS locations. So the 50 sweaters will just go lower down the foot chain but they won't go away.
And while UA or DL may not be really all that interested, SKYW can do it as at-risk flying. Just look at the service to places like DVL. I doubt it is high on the UA route strategy but we serve it under the UA brand.... Plenty of more DVL out there that can be served.
As long as there is no scope limitation they will stay around...
Having said that, more mainline jobs are great for everyone.
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