zondaracer

It takes three weeks to train a flight attendant with absolutely 0 experience. Unlimited supply of FAs off the street. No shortage there. Have you seen how easy it is for FAs to drop trips?

Why pay overtime when you can pay someone else straight pay?

elmetal

Yeah but have you seen their opentime? Tons of stuff to pickup.

Anything above 84 is premium for them. Whether they pick it up or are awarded. Most FAs I fly with work 110-120 a month.

We need that.

Is offline

You really think we are going to get that when SAPA got us a whopping 1% the last package?

elmetal

It's a shame

WesternSkies

Not even a dollar.

GATAM06

In May, ORD CRJ had some nice 8 hour locals.

N1234

That's all fine and dandy. You could still assign them 90 hours at straight time... you need fewer FAs which reduces overall cost. What I am trying to understand is where there 1.5x for everything over 84 is coming from. What is the history?

Having an abundance of FA is even more of an argument not to give them anything extra. So there must be some history that would be good to understand...

disillusioned

I would be happy if we could just get it to where anything assigned over 83 without consent would be paid at 1.5x FA's get 1.5 on stuff they pick up. It's amazing the schedule flexibility that they enjoy.

See above. They have to pay them 1.5x on anything above 84. Granted it is cheaper to have a bunch of extra FA's vs. pilots. Especially when you are only paying them when they work and there are a lot of FA's that work part time. But isn't it amazing that if you pay people more money for doing additional work, that they will do it without threatening them with letters from management?

Well the history is, If the pilots negotiate something, then the FA's will get it next time. If the FA's negotiate something, then the pilots will have to give something up to get the same. They got our negotiated per diem and probably other things that I can't think of off the top of my head. Yet any gains they negotiate are not automatically given to us. And I use gains in the loosest terms possible. (I really could care less if I got a winter coat!) They are also very social media savvy when it comes to pay negotiations and can get the alternate view out when the roadshow dog and pony show numbers don't add up. And they don't have to worry about only getting their information from a moderated forum.

skiK2

You are sorely mistaken, please quit with your misinformation you spew on here.

It's $4 override over 87. Far cry from 150%, and then it is only over 87. So a FA flies 120, they'll get 32 hours times 4. $128. Big deal.

elmetal

which equates to 15-20% overtime pay for most of our flight attendants

and we get 0.