EngineOut

It's money that I get when I work. The more I work, the more per diem I get. That sounds like income to me.

If you get more than you spend on ME&I, then it goes into the same pot that pays the bills.

That being said, almost 10 year CRJ CA (with per diem and bonus, not LCA) 112K last year, 108k the 2014. Approx 5k in per diem both years.

I have to admit, though: 100k doesn't do as much these days as it would have 10 years ago.

Utah

At this point they don't have enough pilots in either seat wanting to transfer into Detroit to fill the July 1st compliment. That may change, but I'd expect see the next several upgrade classes be entirely for Detroit, as well as the next few near hire classes going there.

N1234

True. I can also see that people are very gun shy at this point. Many probably want to see what the pairings will be, how senior it goes etc. I wouldn't want to be the guinea pig even if I was interested in DTW long term.

But it could become an attractive option for folks who are commuting to somewhere else already.

nopantsILS

That would be because it's the DTW DVR.

Turbosina

Ah. Well, there you have it. Thank you for enlightening me!

MiLtoMajor123

Is it just a rumor that some west coast bases will expand? how many? Where do they go? Trying to game my transfer out of ORD a bit.

What does Horizon's purchase of E175s do to our expected expansion with shared domiciles SEA and PDX? Thoughts??

JB22

A lot depends on how the UA flying changes over the next while. With UA placing an extra 90 narrow bodies back into the system to replace our flying and take much of it back over, I think Some of that will happen on the west coast as they grow LAX and SFO.

disillusioned

Cool that they are putting together reporting with the info from the exit interviews. Where do we go to see that report? I'm sure it's information that will be distributed to the line pilots and I just can't find it on that awful website we have.

Now I know that I am not normally one to spread sunshine, but let's make sure we are looking at the whole picture here.

Pay raise - 1.5% over 18 months. Nice I guess, but doesn't even keep up with the COLA that we gave up when we gave the Bro pilots their big raise. Another 1.5% in January 2017

Pilot Bonus - Again nice to have. I think I figured this to be close to 3% so that would help offset the loss of COLA. But if you leave before it's paid out then you get nothing. Kinda bum deal for those that get to move on but I am sure it won't keep them up at night when they are in training at Delta or United.

Increased retirement - 1% At this rate, we will only need 9 more pay package votes get closer to Delta's retirement. Also not close to our sister company with their 2-6% DC on top of their 401k

Better work rules - I was kinda lost on this one? We should've got way more QOL stuff IMO but you must be talking about the 1:4 TAFB change? The one that CW ran numbers on before the vote and showed that there would be minimal improvement with our MSP lines? So the company needed to be more efficient with our lower staffing and they convinced us that this was a win for us? We should've asked for a 1:2 pay ratio for any sit in a SW domicile over 2 hours. You want to schedule a 4 hour sit in SEA? Okay I'll take the extra 2 hours pay. That would've forced more efficient schedules instead of the TAFB ratio. Were there other huge work rules that I missed? One extra day guaranteed off? Sorry I don't think anyone should be working 19 days a month unless they want to. And all this did was just make my bid harder to solve because it has one less day to work with.

Increased MDG - 12 minutes. Again not life shattering and I haven't seen much schedule improvement because of it. I would have rather kept the 4 hours with a rule that PBS must solve my bid at 83 hours minimum each month and any extra flying forced above that is time and a half. That would be improved work rules.

But your last line really takes the cake and in my opinion is exactly we got with the new pay package. While it is great that reserves only have to spend a month or so on reserve. Being so busy that we can't get any time off is not a value add for the pilots. And on top of that, if we have to call in for any reason (you know like sick kids, sick self, exhaustion) then we get to be threatened and told what a horrible employee we are. Great that we are adding a bunch of pilots, but it is too little too late. We will never be able to get ahead of the massive attrition we will see and with all the new flying we are taking on.

FLCHGo

Even with QX, SEA and PDX will grow because we have 20 Alaska planes coming. Much of the 19 DL planes will be going to SEA maybe LAX as well. Either we replace Compass in SEA/LAX or we replace our current CRJs there.

word302

The Alaska 700s are going away. Supposed to be gone by November.