Skywest v2.0
05-05-2016, 09:01 AM
#1052
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Joined APC: Feb 2015
Position: Downward Dog
Posts: 1,875
Personally on my typical originating and terminating location, United is best for me personally.
05-05-2016, 09:12 AM
#1053
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Joined APC: Nov 2015
Posts: 261
This doesn't seem very fair.
Let's say the roles were reversed and there was something in the system that charged DL pilots 50 dollars to ride the jump on UAX OO flights, but not AA/SWA/JB etc. I can't imagine DL pilots being too happy about that and I'd imagine the issue would be resolved fairly quickly.
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05-05-2016, 07:55 PM
#1054
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Joined APC: Oct 2013
Posts: 146
The fact that our pilot group, and our "representation" (I use that term very loosely) allows this to continue is beyond infuriating.
The only way this is going to get fixed is for our guys to start politely refusing the JS to Delta guys. It's a shame, and I'm not necessarily advocating for it, just simply stating that it's the only way things will change. It's a real shame that our representation, hell even our management couldn't care less.
The only way this is going to get fixed is for our guys to start politely refusing the JS to Delta guys. It's a shame, and I'm not necessarily advocating for it, just simply stating that it's the only way things will change. It's a real shame that our representation, hell even our management couldn't care less.
Ask any other regional pilots what they do when they try to jump on Daddy Delta. They give them their specific airline code, and their employee number. But here at OO, we give our PPR number. This isn't a Delta issue, it is SGU wanting to keep some priority on Delta Connection aircraft, i.e. management out of SGU and SLC. Blame them for this money game.
For those looking to come here, don't. You'll be junior for quite sometime, and there are several other carriers you'll upgrade quicker at (which in turn mean you'll make more money). You will also not have to deal with these minor BS items we go through at SkyWest. Taken individually they're not so bad, but pile enough BS on top of more BS, and it becomes an issue.
Don't believe the recruiters on upgrade times, and don't come here expecting to hold a line on the 175 anytime soon.
05-05-2016, 08:15 PM
#1055
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 104
You obviously don't get it, as many others here don't either, but the reason we are charged is SGU, specifically the head of People.
Ask any other regional pilots what they do when they try to jump on Daddy Delta. They give them their specific airline code, and their employee number. But here at OO, we give our PPR number. This isn't a Delta issue, it is SGU wanting to keep some priority on Delta Connection aircraft, i.e. management out of SGU and SLC. Blame them for this money game.
For those looking to come here, don't. You'll be junior for quite sometime, and there are several other carriers you'll upgrade quicker at (which in turn mean you'll make more money). You will also not have to deal with these minor BS items we go through at SkyWest. Taken individually they're not so bad, but pile enough BS on top of more BS, and it becomes an issue.
Don't believe the recruiters on upgrade times, and don't come here expecting to hold a line on the 175 anytime soon.
Ask any other regional pilots what they do when they try to jump on Daddy Delta. They give them their specific airline code, and their employee number. But here at OO, we give our PPR number. This isn't a Delta issue, it is SGU wanting to keep some priority on Delta Connection aircraft, i.e. management out of SGU and SLC. Blame them for this money game.
For those looking to come here, don't. You'll be junior for quite sometime, and there are several other carriers you'll upgrade quicker at (which in turn mean you'll make more money). You will also not have to deal with these minor BS items we go through at SkyWest. Taken individually they're not so bad, but pile enough BS on top of more BS, and it becomes an issue.
Don't believe the recruiters on upgrade times, and don't come here expecting to hold a line on the 175 anytime soon.
05-05-2016, 08:16 PM
#1056
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 2,612
You obviously don't get it, as many others here don't either, but the reason we are charged is SGU, specifically the head of People.
Ask any other regional pilots what they do when they try to jump on Daddy Delta. They give them their specific airline code, and their employee number. But here at OO, we give our PPR number. This isn't a Delta issue, it is SGU wanting to keep some priority on Delta Connection aircraft, i.e. management out of SGU and SLC. Blame them for this money game.
For those looking to come here, don't. You'll be junior for quite sometime, and there are several other carriers you'll upgrade quicker at (which in turn mean you'll make more money). You will also not have to deal with these minor BS items we go through at SkyWest. Taken individually they're not so bad, but pile enough BS on top of more BS, and it becomes an issue.
Don't believe the recruiters on upgrade times, and don't come here expecting to hold a line on the 175 anytime soon.
Ask any other regional pilots what they do when they try to jump on Daddy Delta. They give them their specific airline code, and their employee number. But here at OO, we give our PPR number. This isn't a Delta issue, it is SGU wanting to keep some priority on Delta Connection aircraft, i.e. management out of SGU and SLC. Blame them for this money game.
For those looking to come here, don't. You'll be junior for quite sometime, and there are several other carriers you'll upgrade quicker at (which in turn mean you'll make more money). You will also not have to deal with these minor BS items we go through at SkyWest. Taken individually they're not so bad, but pile enough BS on top of more BS, and it becomes an issue.
Don't believe the recruiters on upgrade times, and don't come here expecting to hold a line on the 175 anytime soon.
05-05-2016, 08:44 PM
#1057
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Joined APC: Feb 2015
Position: Downward Dog
Posts: 1,875
I looked but can't tell from seniority number, is the latest EMB upgrade time still roughly parallel to the CRJ? Or is it going more senior?
05-05-2016, 09:00 PM
#1059
Respek
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,635
Nobody has upgraded onto he 175 since end of summer 2015, all that's happening now is transitions from CRJ left seat to 175 left seat.
05-06-2016, 04:45 AM
#1060
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Position: 175 CA
Posts: 1,544
The reason the 175 upgrade is senior right now is because training is occurring for senior bases, LAX SEA PDX, with Alaskan flying switching from CRJ to ERJ people don't have a choice but to transition if they want to remain in their base.
My 2 cents in choosing a regional right now is choose one that you can be happy at long term, upgrade times change dramatically at every regional. Right now compass is the only one that offers a faster upgrade and that's even a question mark if you read their thread on what could happen on their west cost operations, (express jet, republic, endeavor are much longer), psa can't retain FOs fast enough so upgrades are stalling and Mesa seems to be losing CRJs, my point is don't choose based on upgrade. Skywest upgrade is hovering just below 4 years on CRJ, ERJ upgrade is high right now until the senior bases are filled at which point they will have to backfil the junior base of Chicago and at that point it will be the same as the CRJ most likely.
My 2 cents in choosing a regional right now is choose one that you can be happy at long term, upgrade times change dramatically at every regional. Right now compass is the only one that offers a faster upgrade and that's even a question mark if you read their thread on what could happen on their west cost operations, (express jet, republic, endeavor are much longer), psa can't retain FOs fast enough so upgrades are stalling and Mesa seems to be losing CRJs, my point is don't choose based on upgrade. Skywest upgrade is hovering just below 4 years on CRJ, ERJ upgrade is high right now until the senior bases are filled at which point they will have to backfil the junior base of Chicago and at that point it will be the same as the CRJ most likely.
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