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Old 05-03-2016, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by disillusioned
I wonder how many of these things like the jumpseat issue, flight benefits, ect.. would have been fixed had nobody bid for the plane until they were settled? After we turned our cards on the ace we dealt SGU on the 700 and 900's and realized it was a joker, you would think people would've have been leery of agreeing to anything without having the details worked out first. Just remember, SGU doesn't give anything up until they have figured out how to take it away somewhere else.

The first question SGU will ask and what we should all be asking ourselves is "What are you willing to give up to get Delta benny's on the 175?" After all, we are just a regional. If we don't like it, we should just all go to mainline.
One month of denied jumpseats, with a 3x5 printed card explaining why would have this fixed toot suite. A few crew cancellations at mama D would have their attention and it would be fixed. But many want to work for mama D and are loathe to do anything but toadie up and "go along" to get on eventually.
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Old 05-03-2016, 02:19 PM
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One month of denied jumpseats, with a 3x5 printed card explaining why would have this fixed toot suite. A few crew cancellations at mama D would have their attention and it would be fixed. But many want to work for mama D and are loathe to do anything but toadie up and "go along" to get on eventually.
I was on one of the conference calls when MT or SL (can't remember which) was guest attendee. When denying jumpseats came up, he said something to the effect of "That would not be a good idea" because everyone was getting sick of being left behind with seats on the plane. Shortly after that call, it was magically fixed. Still not fully reciprocated, but less issues than before. It was also around that time it was discovered it wasn't an issue with Delta IT like we had been told for the past year. It was because LH negotiated away those benefits. Someone can chime in if I am not remembering that right.

The reason SGU doesn't want a jump seat war is because it is their decision. LH has decided to save some coin by not giving the E175 pilots flight bennys and our representation (and our pilot group) have sent the message that we are okay with that decision. Once we start flying the 175 for Delta, there is absolutely no reason that all E175 pilots shouldn't have the same benefits as the CRJ group. But just because it is the right thing to do doesn't mean that it will happen.
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Old 05-03-2016, 03:12 PM
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But just because it is the right thing to do doesn't mean that it will happen.
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Old 05-03-2016, 09:55 PM
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Not dreaming. I'm serious. I don't touch American or Alaska planes. No benefit for me no benefit for you. Period.
That works if you hold a line, but how are you going to stick to that when you upgrade to MSP RSV CA and they TDY you to ORD to do some Eagle flying, or SEA/PDX to do Alaska flying? Serious question, not trying to be a twit.
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Old 05-03-2016, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
That works if you hold a line, but how are you going to stick to that when you upgrade to MSP RSV CA and they TDY you to ORD to do some Eagle flying, or SEA/PDX to do Alaska flying? Serious question, not trying to be a twit.
Same thing you do as an fo reserve. Refuse the trip. Flown with many reserve captains who Share my view.

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Old 05-04-2016, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
Same thing you do as an fo reserve. Refuse the trip. Flown with many reserve captains who Share my view.

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Not really practical. You could call in sick or fatigued a few times but you could not tell the MOD "I don't fly planes that I don't get bennies on".

They could and very possibly would fire you on the spot.
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Old 05-04-2016, 06:43 AM
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Not really practical. You could call in sick or fatigued a few times but you could not tell the MOD "I don't fly planes that I don't get bennies on".

They could and very possibly would fire you on the spot.
Tell it to the handful of captains in den who share my viewand haven't been fired yet. As I haven't.
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Old 05-04-2016, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
handful of captains
There is the important part. Try it as an FO and see what happens
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Yep.......

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Old 05-04-2016, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
If you bothered to read, I have. And continue to do so, albeit not a reserve so this time I'm doing so by purposely denying going back to ASE as we will start American flying in June with no benefits. Sorry skw. No benefits for you none for me.
Remember making these posts when you go back to the well one too many times and the CP calls you in and tells you to hand over your badge.

You are refusing to work for reasons that have nothing to do with safety or legality and is completely within the terms of your employment.

If you do this regularly, you are on a list and someday soon you WILL be fired and no one will be able to get you your job back.

Thus ends a potentially multi-million dollar career.
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