Skywest v2.0
03-21-2018, 10:18 AM
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Well SkyWest technically did can me for one missed commute, but then “allowed me to resign”. I never missed a commute prior to that. Also, didn’t know they could use my sick calls that I’m lawfully meant to make if I’m not fit to fly an airplane against me in a situation where I gave myself not 1, not 2 but 4 initial flights to get to work.. I get what you’re saying but trust me, without a policy SkyWest can fire you for anything really, and that’s what the SAPA guys told me. The funniest thing is I was advised I should have just called in sick by multiple people, that’s a great culture to have at an airline... :/
Not trying to knock SkyWest at all, it was a solid place I thought but I will be happy to go the rest of my career without running into the guy that wanted to make an example of me
Not trying to knock SkyWest at all, it was a solid place I thought but I will be happy to go the rest of my career without running into the guy that wanted to make an example of me
For others, if you miss a commute, call in honest, not sick. Sick days are not personal days at SKW. That way if they're short on reserves they can work with you to get you where they need you to be.
03-21-2018, 05:42 PM
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So now Mesa even had a "flow" program. Yes I know it's not a true flow like the AA wholy owned 's, but every carrier that has a CPP/Flow/ preferential interview etc. puts us at a disadvantage. 1) Class spots at XYX major are harder to come by as a percentage will be filled by those people. 2) If a pilot wanted to go to an airline that we had an agreement with, it would help with senority stagnation at the top aka lifers 3) Another reason to go somewhere else.
I know that flow/Cpp programs are sold as something awesome, yet the data shows it takes a while, however it's a nice thing to have in your back pocket/ another tool in the tool box.
Mesa gets one, yet we as the largest regional out there have nothing
I know that flow/Cpp programs are sold as something awesome, yet the data shows it takes a while, however it's a nice thing to have in your back pocket/ another tool in the tool box.
Mesa gets one, yet we as the largest regional out there have nothing
03-21-2018, 06:03 PM
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“Why limit yourself to one major airline”. -SkyWest
Which really translate to
You’re on your own Sh*tbags
Which really translate to
You’re on your own Sh*tbags
03-21-2018, 09:01 PM
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Sadly, there many here that have little to no industry knowledge of what other airlines have. The sheep of Utah believe what their management tells them!
03-22-2018, 08:53 AM
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Don't disagree with this as at all, flow is good, and should be pursued. BUT, I do wonder what happens as the pilot shortage worsens and majors feel pressure to keep their regionals manned? For example, the recent past with Horizon. Their must have been pressure on AS to NOT poach their own Horizon guys. I have heard Horizon pilots say something to that effect that they feel they are at a disadvantage getting hired at AS.
Taco
Taco
So now Mesa even had a "flow" program. Yes I know it's not a true flow like the AA wholy owned 's, but every carrier that has a CPP/Flow/ preferential interview etc. puts us at a disadvantage. 1) Class spots at XYX major are harder to come by as a percentage will be filled by those people. 2) If a pilot wanted to go to an airline that we had an agreement with, it would help with senority stagnation at the top aka lifers 3) Another reason to go somewhere else.
I know that flow/Cpp programs are sold as something awesome, yet the data shows it takes a while, however it's a nice thing to have in your back pocket/ another tool in the tool box.
Mesa gets one, yet we as the largest regional out there have nothing
I know that flow/Cpp programs are sold as something awesome, yet the data shows it takes a while, however it's a nice thing to have in your back pocket/ another tool in the tool box.
Mesa gets one, yet we as the largest regional out there have nothing
03-22-2018, 09:37 AM
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Don't disagree with this as at all, flow is good, and should be pursued. BUT, I do wonder what happens as the pilot shortage worsens and majors feel pressure to keep their regionals manned? For example, the recent past with Horizon. Their must have been pressure on AS to NOT poach their own Horizon guys. I have heard Horizon pilots say something to that effect that they feel they are at a disadvantage getting hired at AS.
Taco
Taco
But there won't be any big announcement, you'll never know when STOPLOSS is in effect.
03-22-2018, 10:23 AM
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It’s not about you. It’s about the majority. Sucks to be in the minority, but a commuter clause will work for most people. Will be fighting for it soon.
03-22-2018, 10:35 AM
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There are many things which could be done to improve SKW, relative to recent industry developments. But I think you'll be end up wishing you had spent the negotiating capital on something other than a commuter clause which will have strings attached... the company is simply not going to let every commuter call off one trip per month carte blanche.
03-22-2018, 04:24 PM
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There are many things which could be done to improve SKW, relative to recent industry developments. But I think you'll be end up wishing you had spent the negotiating capital on something other than a commuter clause which will have strings attached... the company is simply not going to let every commuter call off one trip per month carte blanche.
03-26-2018, 06:53 PM
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UPGRADE QUESTION..
When are you considered to be based at your new domicile as a CA? I have an event in June that I'm currently using golden days for and I have to be there. Would I be able to use move days in place of those if they aren't available?
When are you considered to be based at your new domicile as a CA? I have an event in June that I'm currently using golden days for and I have to be there. Would I be able to use move days in place of those if they aren't available?
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