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Old 03-19-2018, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by gojo
Man, you’re wasting your time with that group. As the saying goes “you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink.” I don’t get it anymore than you do
I just wonder what exactly you two think you are going to accomplish. We passed a horrible pay package. Most users here realize that and were quite vocal about it. Some of us are even trying to get ALPA on board. What is your endgame?
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Old 03-19-2018, 02:58 PM
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Dude, messy divorces and breakups have been part of aviation for the last 80 plus years. I highly doubt QOL at Skywest is the sole cause for all that.
There's many people in general who just don't get along with airline life. Stupid to blame people's personal problems on their job. In all honesty, many going through a divorce better be damn glad they have a job to deal with the aftermath.
My marriage was not helped by the QOL erosion over the last two years. My wife was so shell shocked that she literally refused to believe it would be any better at a major. She's recovering now though.
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Old 03-19-2018, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by word302
I just wonder what exactly you two think you are going to accomplish. We passed a horrible pay package. Most users here realize that and were quite vocal about it. Some of us are even trying to get ALPA on board. What is your endgame?
Did you happen to notice the post I replied to? I’m basically saying that it isn’t going to do any good to keep bringing it up. You guys created this monster. Now you’ll have to live with it
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Old 03-19-2018, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by word302
I just wonder what exactly you two think you are going to accomplish. We passed a horrible pay package. Most users here realize that and were quite vocal about it. Some of us are even trying to get ALPA on board. What is your endgame?
It's simple, to get you guys to see the light of day and up your standards. You guys have 4500+ pilots and some great bases. I want SkyWest to help up the game for everyone. It's a competitive pilots market. If you guys are recruiting enough to hurt our recruiting, the company comes to us with more money. Ever hear the expression "A rising tide lifts all ships"? A lot of pilot groups are enjoying that. You guys come along and bored holes in our hulls by accepting such a lousy package.
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Old 03-19-2018, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Green Needles
It's simple, to get you guys to see the light of day and up your standards. You guys have 4500+ pilots and some great bases. I want SkyWest to help up the game for everyone. It's a competitive pilots market. If you guys are recruiting enough to hurt our recruiting, the company comes to us with more money. Ever hear the expression "A rising tide lifts all ships"? A lot of pilot groups are enjoying that. You guys come along and bored holes in our hulls by accepting such a lousy package.
Ever been to Provo?
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Old 03-19-2018, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Green Needles
It's simple, to get you guys to see the light of day and up your standards. You guys have 4500+ pilots and some great bases. I want SkyWest to help up the game for everyone. It's a competitive pilots market. If you guys are recruiting enough to hurt our recruiting, the company comes to us with more money. Ever hear the expression "A rising tide lifts all ships"? A lot of pilot groups are enjoying that. You guys come along and bored holes in our hulls by accepting such a lousy package.
Or you are a 9e old timer that can’t move on for obvious reasons.
This is all you have and it is painfully obvious.
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Old 03-19-2018, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Green Needles
It's simple, to get you guys to see the light of day and up your standards. You guys have 4500+ pilots and some great bases. I want SkyWest to help up the game for everyone. It's a competitive pilots market. If you guys are recruiting enough to hurt our recruiting, the company comes to us with more money. Ever hear the expression "A rising tide lifts all ships"? A lot of pilot groups are enjoying that. You guys come along and bored holes in our hulls by accepting such a lousy package.
And you act like we don't know that already. Again, you're preaching to the choir dude.
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Old 03-19-2018, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
They don't expect you to live there, unless you have a sugar momma, or the 'rents basement. Pilots are as much to blame for that as anyone.


Sorry but this is not only brutal but it implies that SkyWest won’t turn around and fire guys for missing a commute. It’s also compounded by the fact we have no commuting policy and SFO is notoriously bad for commuters when you consider flow.


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Old 03-19-2018, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by NewGuy01
Sorry but this is not only brutal but it implies that SkyWest won’t turn around and fire guys for missing a commute. It’s also compounded by the fact we have no commuting policy and SFO is notoriously bad for commuters when you consider flow.


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SKW never disciplined anyone for reasonable missed commutes, unless that's changed recently. The SKW non-policy was better than most other official policies (I had a room-mate at ASA, he had to use FMLA every time he missed a 4-day).

Few airlines are in a position to be commute nazis... they know they don't want to pay a living wage in major hubs. Otherwise they would just require that you live within 5 miles of the airport center point.
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Old 03-19-2018, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
SKW never disciplined anyone for reasonable missed commutes, unless that's changed recently. The SKW non-policy was better than most other official policies (I had a room-mate at ASA, he had to use FMLA every time he missed a 4-day).

Few airlines are in a position to be commute nazis... they know they don't want to pay a living wage in major hubs. Otherwise they would just require that you live within 5 miles of the airport center point.
ASA's contract gave them as many commute miss trips as they could use as long as they tried to get on two flights to get to work or try one flight for 3 different times a year. You skywest guys really need to look at some contracts instead of listening to rumors.
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