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Old 03-18-2018, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MidnightHauler
Where do you come up with $35K a year?
That’s about what first year FOs are making.
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Old 03-18-2018, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Green Needles
If only there was some organization that could unite the pilot group and collectively bargain for you guys... I get it completely. We little regional guys have very little power. To be honest, even mainline labor really doesn't, thanks to the RLA. One bad recession and a bankruptcy, you're screwed. The market is far more powerful than we'll ever be. The fact is YOU don't get it. We're in one of the best labor markets for pilots in decades, and you guys vote in what you did. Grow up, stand up for what you're worth and secure some gains while you can. You'll be thankful you did. The rest of the industry will be too.
You do realize well over 2000 of us DID vote no on that crap sandwich?
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Old 03-18-2018, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
They pay a living wage, get real. The issue is QOL and market rates. Moving on is the ticket though.


Are you quite certain you want to get into a living wage for ORD and SFO both of my bases and what my W2 was for 2017?

I’ve been tracking this stuff for ages when I was advocating for increased pay for the corporate flying I was doing.

SkyWest does not pay a living wage for ORD or SFO.


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Old 03-19-2018, 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by word302
You do realize well over 2000 of us DID vote no on that crap sandwich?
How many voted yes? What do you say for them?
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Old 03-19-2018, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by word302
35k a year is a living wage? Maybe in FAT or BOI, not really in any of our other bases. I realize many of us slugged it out for much less, but that doesn't make it a livable wage by any stretch of the imagination.
This. Third year pay, $33k last year.
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Old 03-19-2018, 06:16 AM
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2nd year FO with 33k taxable income in 2017. I would say it’s livable to a point. For a single person yes. For a single income family not so much. This jobs schedules usually mean the spouse has to be a stay at home parent.
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Old 03-19-2018, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Green Needles
How many voted yes? What do you say for them?

Why would I speak for someone else?
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Old 03-19-2018, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by popNfresh
2nd year FO with 33k taxable income in 2017. I would say it’s livable to a point. For a single person yes. For a single income family not so much. This jobs schedules usually mean the spouse has to be a stay at home parent.
Mine didn't. We had for jobs between us (both mil).

We did homestead near friends and family, in a town with plenty of commuting options.
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Old 03-19-2018, 07:40 AM
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Not saying you should. What you should have done was have interventions with anyone who even thought of voting yes.
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Old 03-19-2018, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by popNfresh
2nd year FO with 33k taxable income in 2017. I would say it’s livable to a point. For a single person yes. For a single income family not so much. This jobs schedules usually mean the spouse has to be a stay at home parent.
Mine didn't. We had for jobs between us (both mil). Stability with her job helped in the rough years.

We did homestead near friends and family, in a town with plenty of commuting options.
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