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Old 02-01-2018, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by hawk21
When flights cancel for staffing and they have to re flow pilots to cover sick calls, etc we are not properly staffed for either interpretation.

West coast 175 is a different airline. I'm talking about SkyMidWest mostly.
The last 2 days have only has 1-2 cancels... out of 2203 flights a day. When there is a Crew cancel it seems to be taged to weather.. as that caused delays and timeouts... untill we are sendiya spread sheet like Mesa does every week for flying they can’t cover do to lack of crews.( ive seen it) I dont think they are worried...
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Old 02-01-2018, 12:49 PM
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Bingo....On the call “pilot hiring excited our operational plan”...
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Old 02-01-2018, 01:51 PM
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Lots of dodging XJT/UA rumors. From listening to the calls, I'm not convinced it will happen. did hint at industry “shuffling”.(was that a hint at Republic/TSA).??.. XJT will still loose money in 2018. No plans for there 22-CRJ700’s... majors are scoped out.. except AS and AA 65 seaters... On the OO side 42 new 175’s in 2018 other then that just business as usual...
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Old 02-01-2018, 02:02 PM
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Chief pilots calling new hire FO's and bulling them into another round trip is not proper staffing from the employees point of view.
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Old 02-01-2018, 02:10 PM
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Chief pilots calling new hire FO's and bulling them into another round trip is not proper staffing from the employees point of view.
I agree. Were at horrible staffing levels for the CRJ. ERJ not so much. Talked to a ERJ captain in CRJ training. He flew 250hrs as a ERJ Captain last year... is going to the CRJ to fly more...
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Old 02-01-2018, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by amcnd
Define proper staffing. We talking company idea of it or pilots idea of it...?? Two different interpretations...
I’ll tell the definition. Not the pilots, not the companies, not the passengers. Proper staffing means when a crew gets stuck at an outstation for wx or mx or someone gets sick/emergency we have someone available to call (aka reserve) without cold calling everyone on their day off which many times results in a cancelation. It means they don’t need to go back and manually remove minutes from each flight for pushback to make pilots legal for that extra block time because they have no one available to replace them. It means not violating policy to force people into doing flying that they aren’t required to do because....you guessed it..they don’t have any available pilots to replace them.
Proper staffing would be when you start the day with a 4 hour mx delay they look at your schedule and say “hey we are going to give your next turn to a reserve crew to keep everything on time”.

They get away with it all because they code it as anything under the sun other than not having available crew anytime they can stretch it.
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Old 02-02-2018, 06:49 AM
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I completely agree staffing is horrendous on the CRJ, and yes there are two different airlines here. I started midwest CRJ and am now west coast ERJ so i can totally sympathize with the guys out there. As far as self funding SAPA I am in favor or unionizing SAPA to get the legal rights and protection from a real contract. I look at some of the protection they have been able to get us without the union and personally feel that is the better way to go. We do have things even union regionals don't i.e. full cancellation pay no matter what the reason, 100% deadhead pay. Yes there are things we dont have that they do. Its my opinion that forming our own legal in house union would be more beneficial to the pilot group. But we will never really know because we will never have it both ways. I agree 5 years ago the math didnt make sense, but given our size now I think the math does work.

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Old 02-02-2018, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Tippy
I completely agree staffing is horrendous on the CRJ, and yes there are two different airlines here. I started midwest CRJ and am now west coast ERJ so i can totally sympathize with the guys out there. As far as self funding SAPA I am in favor or unionizing SAPA to get the legal rights and protection from a real contract. I look at some of the protection they have been able to get us without the union and personally feel that is the better way to go. We do have things even union regionals don't i.e. full cancellation pay no matter what the reason, 100% deadhead pay. Yes there are things we dont have that they do. Its my opinion that forming our own legal in house union would be more beneficial to the pilot group. But we will never really know because we will never have it both ways. I agree 5 years ago the math didnt make sense, but given our size now I think the math does work.

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XJT has full CX pay and 100% deadhead pay as a unionized regional. So you're slowly catching up.
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Old 02-02-2018, 08:21 AM
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so we are now awarding crj captain with less than 2500 TT?
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Old 02-02-2018, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Tippy
I completely agree staffing is horrendous on the CRJ, and yes there are two different airlines here. I started midwest CRJ and am now west coast ERJ so i can totally sympathize with the guys out there. As far as self funding SAPA I am in favor or unionizing SAPA to get the legal rights and protection from a real contract. I look at some of the protection they have been able to get us without the union and personally feel that is the better way to go. We do have things even union regionals don't i.e. full cancellation pay no matter what the reason, 100% deadhead pay. Yes there are things we dont have that they do. Its my opinion that forming our own legal in house union would be more beneficial to the pilot group. But we will never really know because we will never have it both ways. I agree 5 years ago the math didnt make sense, but given our size now I think the math does work.

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We have full cancellation pay at the CRJ 200 credit value.

Our dead head pay is also at CRJ 200 rate and is only paid credit if it's on our plane.

So it's not like the union carriers.

It's cute that you tried though.
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