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Old 04-04-2014, 08:02 AM
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Also remember that alpa has and currently has a policy not to accept new airlines into their union due to lack of funding for a drive. Bow jetblue may be big enough but for the rest of the world in the sub 500 pilot group the will not accept them. Teamsters has about a 200 pilot minumim aswell for them to see profitability.
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Old 04-04-2014, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jaded
Let's not forget for those of you that are harping on JB, VX, SKW and whoever else are non union/non ALPA. Most of us have at one point or another paid dues to ALPA. I've personally been an ALPA member for 3 previous airlines before joining VX.
Nevets and the zealots will just say your a "sellout". As far as real action he and zealots just complain and attack others for using KCM but say a petition to get rid of non union carriers would fail. Nevets do you know why it would fail? It would fail because A4A formerly ATA is the other very large lobbing group that lobbied for KCM. Who are the members of A4A? It is buisnesses mostly made up of non union enployees.
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Old 04-04-2014, 08:15 AM
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This pilot screwed the pooch big. And it may have serious implications for the rest of us.

He allegedly used KCM screening in the U.S. And brought a firearm into The Peoples' Socialist Mooseville of Canada? That place HATES guns. I'm sure the State Department is already kissing Canada's A$$. They will never repent. If Canada ever lets their meat hooks off the poor guy, he'll have trouble going back there again. For a long time. It'd be a shame to lose KCM over this. But a few more of these with pilots and it's game over. Bet.
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What I find entertaining is how some of you say give the guy a break since he probably forgot the gun was in his bag. Funny you didn't have the same reaction when a cat rancher did the same. Hypocrites much?





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Old 04-04-2014, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Firsttimeflyer
Hopefully you guys bashing ANY airline that isn't ALPA for using the KCM realizes each airline uses KCM on a subscription basis...meaning they pay into the system for their crews.

Take a look at the long list of airlines approved for the program on the KCM website and you will see several that are not ALPA. And even more are coming now that 135 operators are approved for the program.
If these incidents happen, KCM will be gone in a few years. Allowing FAs and 135 pilots into the mix further widens the chances of more prohibited items getting through. Nothing against them personally, but the pool of eligible people for KCM is getting pretty huge. And to the rest of the world, we are already the laughing stock of aviation security.
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Old 04-04-2014, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by LNL76
What I find entertaining is how some of you say give the guy a break since he probably forgot the gun was in his bag. Funny you didn't have the same reaction when a cat rancher did the same. Hypocrites much?





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Only the dense guys wearing the rose colored glasses are saying that. They're both idiots and deserve whatever happens to them.

He screwed up plain and simple. Now he gets to deal with the consequences.
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Old 04-04-2014, 09:31 AM
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Its just sad
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Old 04-04-2014, 09:39 AM
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If the gun was loaded I say put him on the no fly list and strip him of his ATP ( moral character in question).
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Old 04-04-2014, 11:18 AM
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Anybody who accidently leaves home with a gun and goes to an airport, not once but twice with that gun, has no business having a gun.
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Old 04-04-2014, 11:48 AM
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Too early to call it a trend but: Skywest pilot + SLC based = Law Broken
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