saturn

I work for SkyWest, like my job, and I'm voting no to our pseudo raises. Im glad others are trying to hold the line at their respective carriers, and I feel voting in a pay freeze for a company thats made over 50 million in first 3 quarters of 2013 is not holding the line.

Paid2fly

So you consider a pilot that works for the largest and most profitable regional in the world to be"angry and bitter" just because they would like to have an offer that actually doesn't cause there standard of living to drop year after year? I guess there is no inflation in your neck of the woods?
The measly 1% raises over the last several years have not even come close to keeping up with inflation, let alone the insulting 0% offer being made this time. The company has COLA increases included in their own contracts with every single major they provide lift for, shouldn't we benefit from this as well???


P.S. I'd be happy to explain it to you "in person"!

wrxpilot

No, I consider an angry, bitter pilot to be one that drones on incessantly about how horrible SkyWest pilots are for whatever reason that's really not important. Whatever unhappiness is consuming your life isn't due to pilots at a regional airline.

As far as our contract, I can understand wanting to see improvements. I get it. Not really sure what else your point is. But if you want to play some kind of badass, then send me a PM. I'd be glad to talk to you about it in person.

Nevets

Here is what the ASA/XJT MEC said regarding your pay proposal a couple of days ago:

"Fellow Pilots:

Yesterday, we sent out a preliminary review of the SkyWest pilot TA. The overall increase in pilot costs is approximately $2M with little-to-no cost increase to the company due to offsets in the form of position and equipment freezes. The Joint Negotiating Committee (JNC) and Economic and Financial Analysis (E&FA) department has created a side-by-side comparison of both agreements and an overview of differences between the JCBA and the SkyWest TA. This, along with our analysis and the complete SkyWest TA, is available on the JNC nexus website.

The letter from the SAPA Negotiating Committee specifically says “represents a $2 million+ increase per year in pay and other benefits” but notably doesn’t say that it costs the company that amount. Based on what they did with extending freezes, your JNC believes the agreement overall saves the company money, or is at least close to breakeven, even though all pilots would get slight increases with some pilots getting a bit more (reserves, EMB120). With the high cost of each training event, it wouldn’t take a significant amount of voluntary movements avoided to get to $2 million+ in cost savings to offset the $2M+ in pay/benefits increases.

The $2M is roughly 0.7% of total pilots cost to the company, but if the freezes save all or more of that, this is basically a breakeven or slightly concessionary contract in terms of cost to the company. As we’ve discussed before, the XJT TA averages about $7.5 million in savings over the 5 years, with approximately $12-13M savings once fully implemented. This is about a 2% savings of total pilot costs for the company over the 5 year average and about 3.5% after full implementation. The company had estimated that XJT was about $22 million more expensive than SkyWest in the block hour analysis they presented to ALPA in July 2013, including all adjustments they made to equalize the flying operations of the airlines. If the new SkyWest deal is actually breakeven on a company cost basis, and the XJT TA saves the company an average of $7.5M or $12-13M in costs (depending on the time period used), XJT would still be $10-15M more expensive per year than SkyWest based on the block hour differential analysis, although the gap would be narrowed by about half.

SkyWest pilots have not achieved the same level of compensation and benefits as what we have reached in the JCBA. Although our agreement is a concessionary agreement and the SkyWest pilots do make some small gains, they are still not at the same level as our JCBA that provides better overall compensation and benefits than nearly all other regional airlines.

This week the company also indicated that if we so choose the pilots can have the SkyWest Tentative Agreement and all SkyWest policies in lieu of the JCBA, but not a single seniority list."

NVUS

Or you can wait and get hired in at the bottom.

ross9238

And herein lies the problem with the one list and the Skywest pilots not wanting it - seniority.

Slats

Well duh... We did cal and united a favor by purchasing you. Why should we have to integrate DOH?

Nevets

If you didn't benefit from purchasing us, then you wouldn't have. This is not about doing other entities favors. This is strictly about shareholder value and nothing else.

Anyway, that's what fences are for.

rickair7777

"We" didn't purchase you, some nice folks in SGU did.

NVUS

Right, but they used the money SkyWest employees helped make for those nice folks in SGU. Hence...

And its not really about seniority, or unions, its about culture. The nice folks in SGU don't want your sour grapes chumming up their clean ocean water.