JustAMushroom

Says the guy that cowered. This is rich.

MatchPoint

Fact is you can’t put a dollar amount on the work environment we enjoy at SkyWest. We also don’t pay 1.9% in dues to a union that’s locked in a huge conflict of interest. A union that represents mainline pilots and Regional pilots? Each benefit when the other doesn’t. yeah….

Personally I think arguing over a dollar here and a dollar there is absurd. I’ll ask you this; do you like and respect the company you work for? No other regional out there enjoys the work environment we have here at SkyWest. There’s a reason for that and you outsiders will never understand. You’ll continue to rip on us by claiming we’re drinking Kool-Aid but that’s fine, you’re just showing your a$$ and ignorance. We’re as happy as one can be at a subcontractor and proud to say we work/worked for SkyWest.

Guys/Gals, just drop it and move on.

DroopsN10

This is the first post worth a damn on this topic! Thanks! It has been pretty depressing on here looking at this from a new hire's perspective.

John Carr

How much add pay/above guaranty pay do you have there? Good luck on getting it.

FOR NOW, how's that look with 117 tossed in?

I'd say those ASA guys were probably the ones that DON'T know how to exploit flightline.

So pay rates will just be tossed OUT of the discussion then?

And yet how many days off per month do SKW lineholders and reserves get?

I find it absurd that ANY regional pilot can respect the company they work for.

AGAIN, it's funny to proud to work for a subcontractor. Let alone one that ISN'T "raising the bar". The rest of that could be construed as flamebait, careful now.........

Utah

John, to answer your question on days off we get 11 minimum.

As far as add pay/above guaranty, I'm not sure what that is. Reserves can pick up on additional flying on days off. 117 has made that harder, but it's still possible. Line holders can bid for as few as 58.6 credit to well into 100+. Picking up or dropping trips is very common.

We'll find out tomorrow about the JCBA I'd presume, but it has some significant negatives compared to the SkyWest agreement.

Pay. Our current rates from 2013 are better than yours for the next several years.

Your loss of duty and premium guarantees. Our MDG is higher.

Your reserves will need 75 hours of BLOCK to break guarantee. We only need credit, it makes a big difference.

On the CRJ you're agreeing to not start the pay clock until aircraft movement instead of the parking brake. That's huge.

Your reserves have to call crew support for a release. We don't.

We don't need a doctors note to call in sick. Call in 20 or 30 days a year and you won't hear anything about it.

You mentioned a commuter clause in a previous post. No one gets in trouble for a missed commute here. Most feel it's not needed. Again it's a difference in management/employee relations between the companies.

Now you do have some good stuff in the JCBA we don't. But I wouldn't trade what we have for your new agreement.

AxialFlow

Here's the deal: when everyone is reading about this abortion of a contract in the history books...the "gun" to our heads will be an overlooked foot note. All that matters is the impact this will leave on the industry. Thanks for all your effort.

AxialFlow

Daddy's trust fund doesn't count as a "plan B"

wrxpilot

One thing you'll learn pretty quick... Most of us are pretty happy at SkyWest, it's a good place to do your time and move on without turning into an angry, bitter pilot. Unfortunately the angry, bitter pilots want everyone else to wallow in their misery, and they will lash out at you on the forums in order to make themselves feel better. Of course, they ONLY do this on forums, as doing so in person would require some cajones, which the typical angry, bitter pilot lacks (otherwise they'd be doing something else instead of complaining!).

Enjoy your time here, for the most part we have a great pilot group (and a lot of our FAs are cool too!).

MatchPoint

Flame-bait, that's rich coming from a poster like you who's on a SKW thread.

I'm not completely sure what you're talking about as far as pay above guarantee. Most of this we currently have but after this package our RSVs will get 76 hours/month compared to your 75 for which they only need credit (not block like at XJT) to break guarantee. The BHO for flying the 700/900s and the 4.3 hours we get paid for New Years, Memorial Day, 4th of July, Labor Day, Thanksgiving and Xmas (regardless of whether you work it or not) pays out above guarantee. Our RSV should average around 78+ hours per month WITHOUT breaking guarantee and if they do break their pay will easily jump over 100 hours.


Breaking guarantees not an issue for me since I'm a line holding CA but in 2013 I blocked well under 800 hours and credited more than 1000 with Thanksgiving, Xmas & New Years Off. Plus I spent far more days at home than on the road. If you're willing to work more and end up blocking well over 900 you'll usually credit around 1200. I've seen as high as 1400 but I'm pretty sure that guy was never home. Me, I've been married for going on 14 years to an amazing women and I have two precious little angels with her so I work my commutable trips and take my days off. Hope this answers what you're talking about? It's why I like to say work rules are far more important than a few dollars more per hour.

In Jan I still got 14 off and I'm a JR guaranteed lineholder but my pay took about a 4 hour hit for the same number of days worked. Roughly the trips I can hold fell from an average credit of 22+ to 21+ hours, about a 1 hour hit per trip. Regardless if you still want 14-15 off, even as a jr lineholder, you can get it without any trouble. If you want to work more, there's a lot the company's willing to help you add.
Com'on man, what a ridiculous statement. I do hope you're smarter than you're appearing, for your sake. Of course it matters but $1 here and there above or below yours doesn't matter. It's about the work rules and an unmatched working environment we enjoy which is worth every bit what you think you're getting plus more. Not to mention it helps we're not paying 1.9% to a union who doesn't truly represent their pilots best interest. How could they when they're representing both Mainline and the Regionals. Btw, guess which one they care more about? Also look at their history of cowering when their pilots are in deep trouble. Airlines like Braniff where my father and mother worked dating back to the late 50's, Midwest Exp., Comair just to name a few. The list really does goes on and on.

I don't expect you to understand what it's like to work for a good company. What's truly sad is the fact that your respect can only be bought, not earned. The newbies who come on here and end up reading crap like what you're spilling even realize enjoying your job is what we got into aviation for! What are you still doing here if you're so unhappy? Life's too short to have so bitter and angry. My father used to say "Son there are 2 sides to everyone's life, personal & professional. If you're not happy in one it WILL bleed over onto the other. But when you're truly happy in both, life will take a far more satisfying course."

I hope you find balance at some point but until then don't flamebait on others threads.

MatchPoint

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