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Old 01-08-2014, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by yimke
But, this new TA will "Put us in a position to compete with skywest"
Pff... What a bunch of crap mgmt and ALPA is feeding us. SkyWest has much better CPAs than XJT, but I don't see why the pilot group should take concessions. Negotiating CPAs is mgmt department.
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Old 01-08-2014, 10:22 AM
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Wow I have to say this is impressive. It may not be big gains or anything but in the time of everyone else cutting pay even though they can't fill classes. This management seams to get it.
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Old 01-08-2014, 10:32 AM
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Wow I have to say this is impressive. It may not be big gains or anything but in the time of everyone else cutting pay even though they can't fill classes. This management seams to get it.
Agreed!! Way to go SKW! I hope you guys fill your classes and maybe, just maybe other management teams will notice and get a clue!
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Old 01-08-2014, 10:33 AM
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XJET/ASA hold the line. Vote No. Talk to the yes voters and educate them.
Coming from a family rich in history with pilots I'm highly educated on what's going on within this industry. I live, sleep and breath my career.

With this 1 YEAR agreement we aren't lowering any "bar" therefor we're maintain said "bar." But in the end I will do what's best for our futures both as a pilot group and as a company. I will not vote no just to save face with my competitors pilots. I'm voting yes and any no voters are ridiculously delusional if they think we can do better while remain competitive in order to retain our contracts and win new ones. More hiring with more upgrades, better flexible schedules, more domiciles, retaining current contracts and being competitive on new ones is worth FAR more than an extra 5% in pay. It's sad so many are unable to see the forest through the trees. You guys need to see the big picture here otherwise you'll find yourself unemployed. So I ask, what good is an extra 5% if your competitors accept concessions which put you out of business?

Regional pilots act like bunch of little school girls, when was the last time you read a thread where SWA pilots were bashing on AA/US pilots for lowering the bar? Only at the regionals do we attack each other. Again I will do what's best for my airline and my pilot group.
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Old 01-08-2014, 10:38 AM
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Congrats guys.
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Old 01-08-2014, 10:44 AM
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If this TA passes SkyWest 30 passenger turboprop FO's will make more on year 2 pay than the most senior Republic/Endeavor FOs do flying 76 passenger jets.
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Old 01-08-2014, 10:47 AM
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Match I don't he was telling OO guys to vote no. I think he was referring to ASA/XJT guys.
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Old 01-08-2014, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by MatchPoint
Coming from a family rich in history with pilots I'm highly educated on what's going on within this industry. I live, sleep and breath my career.

With this 1 YEAR agreement we aren't lowering any "bar" therefor we're maintain said "bar." But in the end I will do what's best for our futures both as a pilot group and as a company. I will not vote no just to save face with my competitors pilots. I'm voting yes and any no voters are ridiculously delusional if they think we can do better while remain competitive in order to retain our contracts and win new ones. More hiring with more upgrades, better flexible schedules, more domiciles, retaining current contracts and being competitive on new ones is worth FAR more than an extra 5% in pay. It's sad so many are unable to see the forest through the trees. You guys need to see the big picture here otherwise you'll find yourself unemployed. So I ask, what good is an extra 5% if your competitors accept concessions which put you out of business?

Regional pilots act like bunch of little school girls, when was the last time you read a thread where SWA pilots were bashing on AA/US pilots for lowering the bar? Only at the regionals do we attack each other. Again I will do what's best for my airline and my pilot group.
Wasn't the guy you quoted speaking to xjet and asa? I don't think he meant to say OO should vote no. I think he was saying in light of your modest gains here, no way should xjet settle for concessions.
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Old 01-08-2014, 10:50 AM
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OO, open an NYC base already... please?!
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Old 01-08-2014, 10:56 AM
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^^^SkyEast!
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