Skywest Awarded 34 New 700/900s
08-04-2012, 09:31 PM
#122
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I usually left the company talks out of the flight deck as much as possible. My stuff was on airlinkpilots, and most of my stuff was true, but many didn't want to hear it.
Really? How typical of someone jealous. VA calls pilots to interview based on how well you do on the online assessment exam. This exam consists of 15-20 math/pattern recognition-type questions and another 150 personality profile questions. This test is handscored and then based on the grade, pilots are called for an interview. Of course, those who fail the test find it easier to blame race of others as reasons that they themselves did not get called. I did well on the assessment, and got the interview.
I saw enough to form an educated opinion. Good luck in your escape.
and got on at virgin with the minority card because, according to them, there is little else to justify your having been hired there.
You are painfully preachy and condescending concerning matters you have little experience with ie the trams states back door by go jets it is a different story than negotiating in good faith for many years and remaining cheap ie Pinnacle
08-04-2012, 09:55 PM
#124
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Not him, it was a reference to his friends who pulled the race card in one pilot's hiring at a LCC. Those pulling the race card about others getting hired are typically the ones who are rejected from that airline or the ones who can't get an interview.
08-04-2012, 10:01 PM
#125
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Here is what I am seeing, and everyone please feel free to tell me that im way off in the left field on this, but Skywest once again shows why they have been in front of the wave on just about everything since their creation. Knowing that they could not be cost competitive with the low cut (expletive restrained) carriers (hint: rhymes with gojet) they found a way to secure flying for at least another decade, without bidding the flying at a loss. They agreed to void some of the existing agreements on the 200's and allow DL to opt out early, and in return they got a big piece of the new TA's pie. Nothing earth shattering about that, but what I do give them credit for is the timeline that the 200's will be retired, it almost perfectly mirrors the predicted attrition they will be experiencing, so as the pilots leave so go the planes. This seems to be the classic killing two birds with one stone, they solved their looming pilot staffing issues, and also secured additional 65+seat flying. The one big downside to this strategy is that upgrades will continue to be that moving target that will always seem to be just out of reach for so many current FO's.
08-05-2012, 05:20 AM
#127
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Here is what I am seeing, and everyone please feel free to tell me that im way off in the left field on this, but Skywest once again shows why they have been in front of the wave on just about everything since their creation. Knowing that they could not be cost competitive with the low cut (expletive restrained) carriers (hint: rhymes with gojet) they found a way to secure flying for at least another decade, without bidding the flying at a loss. They agreed to void some of the existing agreements on the 200's and allow DL to opt out early, and in return they got a big piece of the new TA's pie. Nothing earth shattering about that, but what I do give them credit for is the timeline that the 200's will be retired, it almost perfectly mirrors the predicted attrition they will be experiencing, so as the pilots leave so go the planes. This seems to be the classic killing two birds with one stone, they solved their looming pilot staffing issues, and also secured additional 65+seat flying. The one big downside to this strategy is that upgrades will continue to be that moving target that will always seem to be just out of reach for so many current FO's.
My friends at pinnacle tell me you are quite the guy to fly with and got on at virgin with the minority card because, according to them, there is little else to justify your having been hired there. You are painfully preachy and condescending concerning matters you have little experience with ie the trams states back door by go jets it is a different story than negotiating in good faith for many years and remaining cheap ie Pinnacle
In my 3 1/2 years at Pinnacle, I had very little interaction with Shyguy. I knew who he was and we were based in the same location. From the few times I did talk to him, I never felt about him the way you portray him in your post. Disclaimer is that I never flew with him since we were both FOs so I can not comment about his on flight deck attitude. A lot of people on this site like to hate on him, but he is generally either completely correct on what he is saying, or damn close to it. Problem is that most people do not like to hear opinions that are counter to their own beliefs on a subject. This seems to be especially true with pilots.
If I remember my timeline correct, he was hired at Virgin a few weeks after I made my escape back in to the 91/135 world. I highly doubt that he did so by playing the race card. More likely is that he did so by researching the company, becoming very familiar with the operation, keeping his books up to date, and then actually applying for the position and passing the interview. This is the same way other FOs have gotten out of Pinnacle for better positions and I doubt anyone would make a claim of race cards with them.
My point with all this is, don't hate on someone just because you don't like their opinions. Counter their opinion with well thought out posts that present your side of the argument and prove him to be wrong.
08-05-2012, 10:28 AM
#130
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My friends at pinnacle tell me you are quite the guy to fly with and got on at virgin with the minority card because, according to them, there is little else to justify your having been hired there. You are painfully preachy and condescending concerning matters you have little experience with ie the trams states back door by go jets it is a different story than negotiating in good faith for many years and remaining cheap ie Pinnacle
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