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Old 08-04-2012, 01:43 AM
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You are now a 10 year regional captain making 90-100k.
You really going to take a plunge down to 30k? Sit at the bottom of the seniority list? Commute across the country? It will take 7 years working at a major before you have made up your losses.
That logic has held sway since 9/11 and only when compared to the concessionary contracts that were the result. It’s the salve that the average regional pilot comforts himself with to rationalize their place in the world, but now with Delta's new TA, as the shot that it is across the bow of Mgt. and with UAL, and American in negotiations and keenly aware of what Delta wrought out of their section 6, they will quickly turn that year 2000-era Regional logic on its head, when a 3 year MD90 FO is making what a 16 year SkyWest CA is making and 10 year 767 CA makes twice what a capped out SkyWest CA makes. Shoot fist year pay at Delta is more than 10 year Bro CA pay. Not to mention that the job security at any feeder will always be as secure as the last contract and whims of the Main line Mother Ship. Just ask Skyway, Freedom, and Comair.
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Old 08-04-2012, 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by proletariatav8r
That logic has held sway since 9/11 and only when compared to the concessionary contracts that were the result. It’s the salve that the average regional pilot comforts himself with to rationalize their place in the world, but now with Delta's new TA, as the shot that it is across the bow of Mgt. and with UAL, and American in negotiations and keenly aware of what Delta wrought out of their section 6, they will quickly turn that year 2000-era Regional logic on its head, when a 3 year MD90 FO is making what a 16 year SkyWest CA is making and 10 year 767 CA makes twice what a capped out SkyWest CA makes. Shoot fist year pay at Delta is more than 10 year Bro CA pay. Not to mention that the job security at any feeder will always be as secure as the last contract and whims of the Main line Mother Ship. Just ask Skyway, Freedom, and Comair.
Ssshhhh.....
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Old 08-04-2012, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by seafeye

Now those that have been working in the regionals for 7 years plus have not had that many opportunities. Age 65 put a 5 year hold for the most part. So supposed you were a 5 year regional pilot. Now stuck for another 5 years because of retirements.... You are now a 10 year regional captain making 90-100k.
Not even close at Pinnacle. 2007 hires have now been here 5 years and have NO shot at Captain for at least another 2-3 years maby more. Many will never see the left seat here. Sitting right seat at a regional is NOT a career job.
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Old 08-04-2012, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by proletariatav8r
That logic has held sway since 9/11 and only when compared to the concessionary contracts that were the result. It’s the salve that the average regional pilot comforts himself with to rationalize their place in the world, but now with Delta's new TA, as the shot that it is across the bow of Mgt. and with UAL, and American in negotiations and keenly aware of what Delta wrought out of their section 6, they will quickly turn that year 2000-era Regional logic on its head, when a 3 year MD90 FO is making what a 16 year SkyWest CA is making and 10 year 767 CA makes twice what a capped out SkyWest CA makes. Shoot fist year pay at Delta is more than 10 year Bro CA pay. Not to mention that the job security at any feeder will always be as secure as the last contract and whims of the Main line Mother Ship. Just ask Skyway, Freedom, and Comair.

Yea... ssshhhhhhhh!!! Most of the Captains I fly with say they are staying put. Don't try to talk em' out of it.
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Old 08-04-2012, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by proletariatav8r
to mention that the job security at any feeder will always be as secure as the last contract and whims of the Main line Mother Ship. Just ask Skyway, Freedom, and Comair.
Given the history, name an airline in this country that offered secured positions to pilots?
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Old 08-04-2012, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by CriticalMach
Given the history, name an airline in this country that offered secured positions to pilots?
Or a 135 outfit, or a 91 Corporate job, or a fractional??? Sorry, the arguement doesn't hold about the regionals. There is the same uncertainty in every sector of this industry. The whole arguement about we sell our own tickets is short sighted.
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Old 08-04-2012, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by CriticalMach
Given the history, name an airline in this country that offered secured positions to pilots?
Southwest?
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Old 08-04-2012, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by CriticalMach
Given the history, name an airline in this country that offered secured positions to pilots?







Skywest... for the last 40 years
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I bet history can show more major airline furloughs than regional.
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Originally Posted by Paid2fly
Skywest... for the last 40 years
Past performance is no guarantee of future results.

I'm as bullish as the next guy for SkyWest in the near term, but I wouldn't plan a 30 year career here.
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