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03-29-2015, 09:48 PM
#9461
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Yo! Calm down! You may be a candidate for a psych exam. I keep up with pilots at SKW still and it is a fact that since I left Portland, San Diego, Santa Barbara, San Luis Obispo, and other bases have closed. Now those pilots must commute. Also, I know that the Bro pilots are not getting classes as quickly as some would've liked and that new hires are getting class dates before them. The upgrade times will take longer for recently hired jet pilots while the Bro pilots filter in and many California based bro pilots will now have to commute to out of state bases. And it's rumored that Skywest has lost contracts to Trans States in Denver for United. Not sure if want to be in that mix right now. Skywest has its strong points but like many have said, regionals should be a stepping stone not a career if you ever want to make 6 figures which it cost most of us to be pilots.
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I'd be willing to bet there are literally thousands that are making 6 figures at regionals.
03-30-2015, 05:24 AM
#9463
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Position: CRJ Captain
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Virtually every captain I know at my regional is at "six-figures". Some are well into it.
The difference is that at a major you'll get there as an FO, and not have to work so hard to get it.
03-30-2015, 05:33 AM
#9464
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Y I keep up with pilots at SKW still and it is a fact that since I left Portland, San Diego, Santa Barbara, San Luis Obispo, and other bases have closed. Now those pilots must commute. Also, I know that the Bro pilots are not getting classes as quickly as some would've liked and that new hires are getting class dates before them. The upgrade times will take longer for recently hired jet pilots while the Bro pilots filter in and many California based bro pilots will now have to commute to out of state bases. And it's rumored that Skywest has lost contracts to Trans States in Denver for United. Not sure if want to be in that mix right now. Skywest has its strong points but like many have said, regionals should be a stepping stone not a career if you ever want to make 6 figures which it cost most of us to be pilots.
The bro pilots are mostly transitioned, except for a few niche bases. New-hires will not really notice much pain from that direction and it will be over with in a month or two anyway.
The bro pilots ALL had the chance to transition last year...some decided to try and wait until the end but ended up seat-locked on reserve as junior folks left. But that was 100% predictable
, nobody to blame but yourself. They are pay protected at jet rates though.The decision to come work at SKW used to be a no-brainer if you got an offer but now folks really need to consider all variables and options. It's a good bet if you have PIC but need some jet or FW time and the domicile geography works for you.
03-30-2015, 05:34 AM
#9465
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And once you upgrade you'll make 180K-230K+...that's a lot of change if you're young.
03-30-2015, 05:34 AM
#9466
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"Six figures" used to be a lot of money, but it just isn't anymore. I only care about "six figures" if the first number is something higher than a "1".
03-30-2015, 05:37 AM
#9467
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I agree, something higher than "six-figures" needs to be the benchmark.
I never said you wouldn't make more at the majors.
03-30-2015, 05:57 AM
#9468
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When I was a kid, $100K/year was the benchmark for real success, beyond what most folks could attain. Today it's $200K...inflation drives on.
03-30-2015, 06:03 AM
#9469
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They're definitely closing bases in small towns (except the Mx bases), but that's pretty much done with at this point. The real upside to SKW is large hub bases in the west, that's not going to change anytime soon.
The bro pilots are mostly transitioned, except for a few niche bases. New-hires will not really notice much pain from that direction and it will be over with in a month or two anyway.
The bro pilots ALL had the chance to transition last year...some decided to try and wait until the end but ended up seat-locked on reserve as junior folks left. But that was 100% predictable , nobody to blame but yourself. They are pay protected at jet rates though.
The decision to come work at SKW used to be a no-brainer if you got an offer but now folks really need to consider all variables and options. It's a good bet if you have PIC but need some jet or FW time and the domicile geography works for you.
The bro pilots are mostly transitioned, except for a few niche bases. New-hires will not really notice much pain from that direction and it will be over with in a month or two anyway.
The bro pilots ALL had the chance to transition last year...some decided to try and wait until the end but ended up seat-locked on reserve as junior folks left. But that was 100% predictable
, nobody to blame but yourself. They are pay protected at jet rates though.The decision to come work at SKW used to be a no-brainer if you got an offer but now folks really need to consider all variables and options. It's a good bet if you have PIC but need some jet or FW time and the domicile geography works for you.
Also, your 6% women comment....absolutely irrelevant. That's on the ladies! Aviation is the most equal profession in terms of gender treatment except when it comes to hiring practices where ladies still have the advantage. With the current climate in aviation it's basically a no brainer for a woman.
03-30-2015, 06:18 AM
#9470
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X2. Flyingirl is half right in that some of our bro bases are closing. But as far as shrinking and bro transitions plugging things up, I disagree. In fact, the bro transitions are a saving grace right now since we are short staffed and can't hire quickly enough. Still tons of movement here and it's not slowing down.
Also, your 6% women comment....absolutely irrelevant. That's on the ladies! Aviation is the most equal profession in terms of gender treatment except when it comes to hiring practices where ladies still have the advantage. With the current climate in aviation it's basically a no brainer for a woman.
Also, your 6% women comment....absolutely irrelevant. That's on the ladies! Aviation is the most equal profession in terms of gender treatment except when it comes to hiring practices where ladies still have the advantage. With the current climate in aviation it's basically a no brainer for a woman.
Minorities are a different issue, they may be limited by socio-economic circumstances from pursuing an aviation career, which requires money and education. I still don't believe in affirmative action, but rather prefer to solve this problem at the root... improve early education quality and availability, and also outreach.
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