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Old 03-23-2015, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by David1968
I understand your frustration, but a lot of those issues are directly caused by Skywest pilots and their refusal to be unionized. If we were all unionized, then we could work together to help make things better. As long as skywest pilots group is out there, it prevents all of the regionals from getting their own union.

It is directly your fault if you choose to work at skywest.
You talk tough David, yet create a new profile on here just to talk this BS. Seems pretty weak to me. Sounds more like a disgruntled person that probably got upset that they didn't get hired here.

BTW, I've walked strike lines. Anybody that compares that situation to working at Skywest is incredibly clueless and is clearly VERY inexperienced in this industry. The more you talk, the more it shows. I'm thinking you're still living in Mom's basement...
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Old 03-23-2015, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by David1968
I understand your frustration, but a lot of those issues are directly caused by Skywest pilots and their refusal to be unionized. If we were all unionized, then we could work together to help make things better. As long as skywest pilots group is out there, it prevents all of the regionals from getting their own union.

It is directly your fault if you choose to work at skywest.
Go away troll.

I am not a SkyWest cheerleader, and if SkyWest closed up shop tomorrow, there'd be a little twinkle in my eye knowing all the senior losers I've flown with don't have a job anymore. And they'd have nobody to blame but themselves, I'd love for them to face that reality. But, you're really reaching with your assumptions.

I'd say you're onto something, except PSA, MESA, Piedmont, all unionized carriers selling their souls for flying. How's the union thing working out for Endeavor/Envoy pilots? No union is going keep their flying if The Boss says they can't.
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Old 03-23-2015, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by David1968
I am just here to remind you that people hate skywest pilots, and we enjoy the fact that not unionizing is coming back to bite you in the butt. You all laughed at it and thought you were superior, but in the end you are quickly becoming the ultimate bottom feeder airline. That's all.
Umm...don't you have a bridge to go hide under or something?

As a pro-union OO guy I gotta say you couldn't be more mis-guided. But that's ok, the internet is full of tough guys who can't be bothered with rational thought.
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Old 03-23-2015, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by David1968
I understand your frustration, but a lot of those issues are directly caused by Skywest pilots and their refusal to be unionized. If we were all unionized, then we could work together to help make things better. As long as skywest pilots group is out there, it prevents all of the regionals from getting their own union.

It is directly your fault if you choose to work at skywest.
In my opinion that isn't true, I don't see how our pilot group which is a fraction of the regional total would have such a dramatic contribution to the union bite. Its my firm belief that unions are ineffective at the regional level, you have no leverage because one pilot group will now and forever climb over the next one to get more flying and if a regional is not flexible that is exactly what will happen, flying will move to another regional and then another and so forth.

IF we had a regional union, with every regional on board, then yes I believe we could tell mainline to pound sand, and they would most likely implement some form of B-scale and take their flying back (probably good for all of us if we ALL get hired), in my opinion that will never happen.

You can't have an effective union without unity, and you will never get that at the regional level unless we are all lifers, because everyone wants to climb over everyone else to get their time and move on. Mainline pilots and their representatives don't care about what happens to a regional pilots QOL, they care about whats happening to their flying which relates to their QOL. We are all in this for ourselves and our families, is that selfish? I don't think so.

Get your time and get out if you can, for this is a continuous downward spiral at the regional level that happens to some of the best regionals aka Comair and Eagle. (The real Eagle...whos brand they created was robbed from them in more ways than one).
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Old 03-23-2015, 10:01 AM
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Let me remind you all again. DO NOT USE THE WORD "SCAB" IN ANY CONTEXT WHERE THERE IS NO STRIKE OR THERE HAS NOT BEEN A STRIKE.

If you feel someone is a troll or flamebaiting or spamming or scamming or jiving or whatever, report the user and don't keep answering him/her. That's like spraying avgas into a raging house fire. It doesn't work and only makes things worse.
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Old 03-23-2015, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by worstpilotever
Let's not diminish the word scab. A scab is someone who crossed a picket line and there is no lower life form. Skywest pilots are not scabs because they are not union.
Little fact check, anyone can be a scab, all they have to do is cross a union defined picket line. The key operative here is picket line.

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As far as line crossers, not one SKYW pilot has EVER crossed a picket line, and how many ALPA crossers are there?

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Old 03-23-2015, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by skiK2
Go away troll.

I am not a SkyWest cheerleader, and if SkyWest closed up shop tomorrow, there'd be a little twinkle in my eye knowing all the senior losers I've flown with don't have a job anymore. And they'd have nobody to blame but themselves, I'd love for them to face that reality.
Nice,
You are a different type of "s" word. There are plenty of guys still here who put targets on their backs and tried the heavy lift, only to fail because weak Nancys like you were too worried to rock the boat. The real loser here is anyone who would wish/twinkle in their tater at the thought of another person losing their job. You are the stuff that people try to scrape off their shoe after going to the dog park.
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Old 03-23-2015, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom
Nice,
You are a different type of "s" word. There are plenty of guys still here who put targets on their backs and tried the heavy lift, only to fail because weak Nancys like you were too worried to rock the boat. The real loser here is anyone who would wish/twinkle in their tater at the thought of another person losing their job. You are the stuff that people try to scrape off their shoe after going to the dog park.
On this point, you and I both agree (for once!). I've flown with many folks who are planning on finishing their career at SKW, and I totally get it. Anyone that wishes ill on these people and their families is mentally deranged.
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Old 03-23-2015, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Squallrider
Personally I think some people at SkyWest need to take a look around the regional industry and realize we have it pretty good...we have cancellation pay, MDG and a whole lot of stuff that other regionals don't have. Is this place perfect? No. Is the reflow policy that they seem to want to band aid pilot shortage with a total piece of s$#!? Yes. But talking to all my friends I believe this is still one of the better regionals.

On another note, mainline pilots trolling regional forums is kind of sad.
Despite all the bad, I agree with this!
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Old 03-23-2015, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by David1968
It is becoming more clear every day that SkyWest pilots are disgusting people that think that they are superior to everyone else, but are really just scabs. They take union jobs and put up with crap everyday because they love the taste of the crap flavored kool-aid that the management keeps serving them.

You deserve to get screwed over by management again and again.

I wish the people that do the hiring at the majors would realize this and prevent any non-union pilot from moving to a major.
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