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03-20-2015, 10:52 AM
#9321
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: KCCO
Posts: 767
Might be new to 121 in the US, but not new to the industry. I have more than enough "underwing" time flying to countries you will most likely never see. So before "booming" another one of your negative lines - Respect.
Though I will agree with you on that it's meaningless -- Much like upgrade at a regional.
Though I will agree with you on that it's meaningless -- Much like upgrade at a regional.
03-20-2015, 12:14 PM
#9322
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2012
Posts: 1,154
Once again, how much do you pay in SAPA dues? SKYW pays more than $1.2 million for SAPA, SAPA is their baby, bought and paid for. The "paying" for the EFB was just subterfuge to get us to think that we won one by not having to "pay" for the Surface II, in the meantime the EFB notification is heavily pimped by SAPA and becomes law, without a whimper, and every pilot will become a reserve. The funny thing is in their quest to insure the flying gets covered, their new hire replacement pilots read about this stuff and stay away, as a result.
Your rhetoric on this board of trying to get people to not come here is self serving and not helpful. Most people, fortunately, do not read it
03-20-2015, 12:34 PM
#9323
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2014
Posts: 613
I'm gonna eat crow and agree with you. I just spoke to Sapa about this because I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth and not on this board. But it's exactly as others are saying it's gonna be. We are gonna pay for EFBs and they will notify us via them. Only caveat is we will not be required to have them on.
Your rhetoric on this board of trying to get people to not come here is self serving and not helpful. Most people, fortunately, do not read it
Your rhetoric on this board of trying to get people to not come here is self serving and not helpful. Most people, fortunately, do not read it
It does nothing but good for me to have others come here. Helps get people behind me and increases my chances at upgrade. I wouldn't tell people not to come here, but SW needs to understand they are not the top choice anymore. Granted, choosing a regional is like choosing an STD. They all suck but what can you live with??
I have seen what reflows look like when CS gets desperate, and they are going to be desperate this summer. Just remember when JP is selling you how good this is, that he hasn't flown the line and had to deal with CS games for a long time now. Pay attention to those here that used to be SAPA and are against it. I bet our EB wishes they could delete posts from this site like they do on our boards.
03-20-2015, 12:54 PM
#9324
MK Ultra Candidate
Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: Prime Leader of Boko Harumph
Posts: 1,167
I'm gonna eat crow and agree with you. I just spoke to Sapa about this because I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth and not on this board. But it's exactly as others are saying it's gonna be. We are gonna pay for EFBs and they will notify us via them. Only caveat is we will not be required to have them on.
Your rhetoric on this board of trying to get people to not come here is self serving and not helpful. Most people, fortunately, do not read it
Your rhetoric on this board of trying to get people to not come here is self serving and not helpful. Most people, fortunately, do not read it
03-20-2015, 01:26 PM
#9325
Prime Minister/Moderator
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 40,057
I'm gonna eat crow and agree with you. I just spoke to Sapa about this because I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth and not on this board. But it's exactly as others are saying it's gonna be. We are gonna pay for EFBs and they will notify us via them. Only caveat is we will not be required to have them on.
Your rhetoric on this board of trying to get people to not come here is self serving and not helpful. Most people, fortunately, do not read it
Your rhetoric on this board of trying to get people to not come here is self serving and not helpful. Most people, fortunately, do not read it
But if we can be notified by EFB, then they will doubtless issue a memo requiring that they be synched to the grid during each turn. The technical details are just that, mere details. The only way to be safe from the EFB is to have policy language that it's not a notification tool.
03-20-2015, 02:19 PM
#9326
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2013
Posts: 869
kfahmi - Appreciate the feedback!
spaaks - Yes, I am aware any airlines "route map" may be pulled easily, but next time pay attention to my question before indirectly labeling me as just another ignorant. I'm was curious as to where they are taking the E7's out of ORD, for various reasons I don't see a need to justify to you.
I believe YOU are part of the problem on these forums and if you act the same way you type, you are ALSO part of the problem in this industry. Same applies to you PerpetualFlyer.
Respect peoples points of views and questions -- You don't know where they came from or especially who they are.
So. Chill. It's just a forum ... a place where the koolaid is puked, rumors are better than a soap opera, and where people once in a while is given a righteous answer.
spaaks - Yes, I am aware any airlines "route map" may be pulled easily, but next time pay attention to my question before indirectly labeling me as just another ignorant. I'm was curious as to where they are taking the E7's out of ORD, for various reasons I don't see a need to justify to you.
I believe YOU are part of the problem on these forums and if you act the same way you type, you are ALSO part of the problem in this industry. Same applies to you PerpetualFlyer.
Respect peoples points of views and questions -- You don't know where they came from or especially who they are.
So. Chill. It's just a forum ... a place where the koolaid is puked, rumors are better than a soap opera, and where people once in a while is given a righteous answer.
You're right, their route map doesn't differentiate the 175 from Crj. But, there are plenty of press releases that state the routes flown. Don't come on a forum and make it seem like you're asking for a route map to try to choose which Ac you want. If you have a specific question, which apparently you do, ask it. Making it seem like a route map is important in your decision on which Ac to pick makes you seem like a spiked hear backpack wearing pink that would work for free because the airplane is so shiny
03-20-2015, 07:38 PM
#9327
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: Left
Posts: 251
How long until the Details of the EFB are announced? ...and wth is an E7???
03-20-2015, 08:07 PM
#9328
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Joined APC: Sep 2013
Posts: 869
You're right, their route map doesn't differentiate the 175 from Crj. But, there are plenty of press releases that state the routes flown. Don't come on a forum and make it seem like you're asking for a route map to try to choose which Ac you want. If you have a specific question, which apparently you do, ask it. Making it seem like a route map is important in your decision on which Ac to pick makes you seem like a spiked hear backpack wearing punk that would work for free because the airplane is so shiny
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03-20-2015, 08:28 PM
#9330
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Joined APC: May 2012
Posts: 1,154
SAPA is the horse's mouth? Some folks say their leadership is in the company's pocket and I'm not sure what to think at this point.
But if we can be notified by EFB, then they will doubtless issue a memo requiring that they be synched to the grid during each turn. The technical details are just that, mere details. The only way to be safe from the EFB is to have policy language that it's not a notification tool.
But if we can be notified by EFB, then they will doubtless issue a memo requiring that they be synched to the grid during each turn. The technical details are just that, mere details. The only way to be safe from the EFB is to have policy language that it's not a notification tool.
At first this seems ludicrous but at the end of the day, this is where the pro Union guys like Nevets et al are right...Sapa has no leverage. The company can do pretty much as they please. And while there may be some (or a lot) of ball twisting done by the company with Sapa, this is something I actually believe when I hear them say "what can we do"
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