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Old 03-16-2015, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiten
And don't give me the tl;dr crap either. FWIW, if I wanted to be a career regional pilot or was going to get into this industry 5-10 years ago, SKW would have been my choice. Things change.
Exactly, things change. You got on with Mesa during an economic upswing. Wait till a downswing, then find out how s####y your Mesa becomes. F.O's came here when upgrade was projected to be a year, got struck by age 65, then a recession. What make you think Mesa is immune to that. Heck, your union can't even make economical contractual gains even by being a bottom feeder. Didn't the great J.O recently throw a party to celebrate a logo change, a new wings, Yet, tells your union about having no money. Keep your Mesa garbage to yourself.
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Old 03-16-2015, 09:01 PM
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Taint gonna happen...your hopes of the OO pilots getting a union is a dream...and a wet one at that...

Yeah, I don't hold my breadth that Skywest pilots will help themselves anytime soon.

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Old 03-16-2015, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
Hahahahaha. So what is it? Rich mommy and daddy? Sugar momma supplementing your quick upgrade dreams? Pathetic.

"Low pay is ok because my (mom/dad/woman) actually makes money. Screw everyone else, I'd fly jetzzzzzzz for free".
Or money I saved in my previous job and invested well. Good try though. Plus her income. Doesn't matter though and doesn't change my point. Low pay is low pay no matter which regional. QOL at Mesa, for me, in my situation, is greater than it would have been if I went to SKW. Economic downturn tomorrow and furloughs happen? Good thing there's a plan B C and D. Keep enjoying your 3 stripes on year 10 of the regionals bud.
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Old 03-17-2015, 04:39 AM
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Like the guy that jumped from a 22 story building said passing the eleventh floor, "pretty good so far".
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Old 03-17-2015, 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiten
Or money I saved in my previous job and invested well. Good try though. Plus her income. Doesn't matter though and doesn't change my point. Low pay is low pay no matter which regional. QOL at Mesa, for me, in my situation, is greater than it would have been if I went to SKW. Economic downturn tomorrow and furloughs happen? Good thing there's a plan B C and D. Keep enjoying your 3 stripes on year 10 of the regionals bud.
Upgradezzz are down to 4yrs kiddo. Hopefully you wont need any medical treatment while at MESA. Their packages are weaker than a room full of B. Jenners.
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Old 03-17-2015, 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiten
Or money I saved in my previous job and invested well. Good try though. Plus her income. Doesn't matter though and doesn't change my point. Low pay is low pay no matter which regional. QOL at Mesa, for me, in my situation, is greater than it would have been if I went to SKW. Economic downturn tomorrow and furloughs happen? Good thing there's a plan B C and D. Keep enjoying your 3 stripes on year 10 of the regionals bud.
As someone who has worked at both places I must say unless you saved a ton of money from your last job, the pay difference is huge! In my first 2 years at Skywest I would say I made about $20,000 more than my first two at Mesa.
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Old 03-17-2015, 06:44 AM
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I think people comparing the two are banking of a quicker upgrade at Mesa. Never bank of an upgrade. Rumor I heard is that United is sueing mesa for their use of the 175s, apparently using parts from some to fix others and therefore not utiliIng the fleet. It's just what I heard maybe someone can confirm,
My point is flying anywhere can leave in a hurry so never bank on a upgrsde, bank on QOL
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Old 03-17-2015, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Squallrider
I think people comparing the two are banking of a quicker upgrade at Mesa. Never bank of an upgrade. Rumor I heard is that United is sueing mesa for their use of the 175s, apparently using parts from some to fix others and therefore not utiliIng the fleet. It's just what I heard maybe someone can confirm,
My point is flying anywhere can leave in a hurry so never bank on a upgrsde, bank on QOL
While I wouldn't put it past MESA to pull those shenanigans, I doubt that's happening. I believe 175's are under warranty/parts from Embraer being new and all
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Old 03-17-2015, 07:11 AM
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You're exactly right L2R, that rumor of lawsuit has been flying around IAH for a year or so and namely from your sister airline.FWIW The planes are brand spanking new...not too much to scrap as of yet.
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Old 03-17-2015, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Squallrider
I think people comparing the two are banking of a quicker upgrade at Mesa. Never bank of an upgrade. Rumor I heard is that United is sueing mesa for their use of the 175s, apparently using parts from some to fix others and therefore not utiliIng the fleet. It's just what I heard maybe someone can confirm,
My point is flying anywhere can leave in a hurry so never bank on a upgrsde, bank on QOL
How is QOL at SKW right now? Isn't there a whole new thread about how bad it is right now? QOL, just like upgradezzz, can decrease/increase in a hurry also. It increased at Mesa in the last few years. I think the opposite is true at SKW. But the former mesa employees who came over to skw won't ever change their opinion of how bad Mesa is based on it's past, and they plug their ears and scream and yell that they are the best.

Also, I don't think people necessarily banked on a quick upgrade, but rather used known facts at the time as part of the decision making and calculations. Joining the largest regional pilot group, at a company that has a bunch of 200s, is a lot riskier than one that, at least at the time, is growing steadily...at least in my opinion. But banking on anything in the aviation industry is always a risk. Banking on which major to go to is a risk. No one is safe in this industry until the day you retire. If you think SKW is immune you are delusional and/or blinded by your pride in your decision.

You guys need to realize that skywest isn't the best choice for some people, myself and most people I started with at Mesa included. For some it's a great choice. I know it's hard to accept, but you shouldn't relish in a hatefest of another airline where people are actually happy and life is relatively good...not real classy, especially when the trash talking is about stuff that happened in years past or just isn't true. At the end of the day, we will probably work for the same company in a few years. I don't plan on sticking around the regionals for long...and I hope you guys don't either. At the end of the day no one cares which farm you were an indentured servant on. They all grow the same corn.
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