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04-10-2012, 02:07 AM
#851
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Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 511
Unrestricted type rating for Fo's now...can I get a helliluljah!! (or however you spell it) 
04-10-2012, 07:27 PM
#853
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Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: AA Airbus
Posts: 829
Just be VERY careful about logging PIC, even if you have an ATP-ME with a PIC type in the RJ and you're "sole manipulator." You can argue it's legalities but you're not PIC, you are designate SIC by SkyWest and when things go wrong you’re not the final decision maker. If and when you get an interview with mainline and you have PIC time in the RJ but have never been a Captain they will send you packing. HR may not care but the pilots interviewing you will, you can guarantee it.
04-11-2012, 09:35 AM
#854
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Joined APC: Oct 2011
Posts: 205
Just be VERY careful about logging PIC, even if you have an ATP-ME with a PIC type in the RJ and you're "sole manipulator." You can argue it's legalities but you're not PIC, you are designate SIC by SkyWest and when things go wrong you’re not the final decision maker. If and when you get an interview with mainline and you have PIC time in the RJ but have never been a Captain they will send you packing. HR may not care but the pilots interviewing you will, you can guarantee it.
Don't be that guy that tries to claim PIC time as an FO in the right seat. You are NOT "in command" of the aircraft, and that's what every airline in the world means when they look for turbine PIC time.
04-11-2012, 10:08 AM
#855
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Position: KCCO
Posts: 767
For a Part 121 operation unless you sign your name on the release where you're listed as PIC, don't log it as PIC. I can't imagine most people doing this but I'm sure there are some out there who would.
04-11-2012, 10:50 AM
#856
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Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: Cessna 152 Captain
Posts: 695
Just be VERY careful about logging PIC, even if you have an ATP-ME with a PIC type in the RJ and you're "sole manipulator." You can argue it's legalities but you're not PIC, you are designate SIC by SkyWest and when things go wrong you’re not the final decision maker. If and when you get an interview with mainline and you have PIC time in the RJ but have never been a Captain they will send you packing. HR may not care but the pilots interviewing you will, you can guarantee it.
04-11-2012, 12:11 PM
#857
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Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: AA Airbus
Posts: 829
There are pilots who, because the regs say you can, will log PIC time when they are "sole manipulator."
04-11-2012, 12:17 PM
#858
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Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: CRJ FO
Posts: 306
Now that’s funny, talking to a Compass FO was the first place I encountered this issue. He has never been a Captain but logs PIC on the legs he fly’s. This individual also felt that Delta prefers pilots with "slat and engine under wing time." What a fool!
There are pilot who because the regs say you can log it will do so.
There are pilot who because the regs say you can log it will do so.
04-11-2012, 12:21 PM
#859
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Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: Cessna 152 Captain
Posts: 695
Now that’s funny, talking to a Compass FO was the first place I encountered this issue. He has never been a Captain but logs PIC on the legs he fly’s. This individual also believed that Delta strongly prefers pilots with "slat and engine under wing time" and asked me if I planned to leave my Captain seat on the RJ at SkyWest for Compass so I could build that necessary time. What a fool and I told him that to his face!
There are pilots who, because the regs say you can, will log PIC time when they are "sole manipulator."
There are pilots who, because the regs say you can, will log PIC time when they are "sole manipulator."
04-11-2012, 12:29 PM
#860
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I think common sense dictates that you will be very stupid to log PIC considering someone else is signing the flight log......
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