saxman66

I'm a 40xxx and I've moved up 37 spots since November 20. It's definitely not as quick up here. My guess is some FO's are going to other regionals. I've already started over once and won't make a lateral move again. When I had to make the jump, no regional had a "quick" upgrade, so I went for the best QOL for me at the time.


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disillusioned

Here are the overall numbers for the past 6 months (Aug-Jan) I don't really trust the numbers the company puts out so I have been keeping my own

Aug - 23 Total (12 Capt, 11 FO) 3356 Total pilots
Sep - 26 Total (14 Capt, 12 FO) 3366 Total pilots
Oct - 37 Total (21 Capt, 16 FO) 3398 Total pilots
Nov - 28 Total (18 Capt, 10 FO) 3398 Total pilots
Dec - 25 Total (17 Capt, 8 FO) 3411 Total pilots
Jan - 27 Total (14 Capt, 13 FO) 3433 Total pilots

So in August we had 3,335 pilots and currently we have 3,433 so 98 more pilots on property. We lost 166 over that span, so I would assume we have averaged hiring about 44 per month?? Some of these could be cadets that are on the seniority list but not on property.

Also, some interesting number of which group is leaving. These numbers are based on their number at the time they left.

Under 1K - 31 total (All CA, including a top 10 line flying pilot)
1,000 - 2,000 - 70 (Mostly CA, Some senior FO's)
2,000 - 3,000 - 41 (Some Jr CA, Mostly FO's)
3,000 and up - 22 (FO's)

My assumption is that 3,000 and up group realized that SkyWest has become just another regional and they were looking at a 6 year upgrade. Maybe they enjoyed that brief bump in pay on the Bro, but then realized what that vote cost this pilot group and bailed.

Five93H

Would the regional bean counters see this pattern and end up bypassing military guys? Worth it to pay for training if they'll be gone within a year? Not that they can be picky right now I suppose.

word302

The cadets get an employee number, not a seniority number when "hired". The seniority number comes when you start class just like everyone else.

disillusioned

While SkyWest has always been one of the better regionals for looking ahead, I really feel they have lost the vision and instead focus on short term gains for long term pains. Or maybe they are brilliant and like CCB is fond or saying, are playing 3D chess while we are playing checkers.

We have too many training events going on, not enough staff for the inefficient 117 pairings, and everyone is getting hosed with their schedules. Since we don't have a contract, they can just randomly adjust the minimum reserves and make it so nobody can drop a trip and a majority of our guys are only getting 10 or 11 days off a month. And this is in the slow season. By summer we will have burned everyone out and we will get more messages from MT talking about how we need to improve our performance. Meanwhile, we will work harder than we should to fill classes or hire people that will get a type then quit and provide no relief to our overworked pilots.

Sometimes I really think they are just pushing the envelope to see how much they can get away with before we bring in a union. At this point, I think it would be better for the company and I don't think it was the threat that it has been in the past. But our apathetic pilot group will just keep watching our QOL diminish little by little until we finally realize we need protection, but we will be starting negotiations from almost zero by that point.

But at least we will save 2%....

disillusioned

Then maybe we have had some people start class then need to defer or something. WW hung out at the bottom of the list for quite some time. I think it was mentioned that he had to leave for military or something. I just see some weird things at the bottom of the list and I have given up trying to figure out what is going on there. I see people bounce around down there all the time, maybe it is after class starts and the SSN seniority is put into place?? It's not like we are ever told what class numbers are.

Also, nobody ever replied if the 2nd January and February upgrade classes had been postponed or pushed back. Is there anyone in those classes that can verify?

word302

Yeah not sure what's going on with WW. He's been on the list for at least 4 or 5 months. They usually stick the cadets on the bottom of the list at the beginning of class, and then move them up a couple weeks later.

ClickClickBoom

SKYW, has been coasting along on their laurels for quite awhile. 117 has nothing to do with our horrid schedules, the problem lies in one office only, SS Reichsfuhrer Anita S. She has been outdated/and or outclassed since her Tandy computer was replaced with a 086 grade computer. Skywest has refused to adapt their old business model to the current times. Creating schedules from thousands of city pairs constrained by federal regulatory limits is a large problem, but if NASA can slingshot a space ship around the moon using nothing but sliderules, it is possible to schedule crews to fly airplanes. The reality is the schedules are published by the parent carrier, airframe numbers are known, crew numbers are predictable, the variables left are MX, weather and sickness calls. There are computers that can play chess at the grand master level, but SKYW can't build a semi efficient schedule? SKYW will either adapt or perish, and I don't see much adapting going on....

http://iveybusinessjournal.com/topic...e#.VMKQF4E76rU

rickair7777

They can't be picky, they probably consider it worthwhile to train three military guys if they get to keep one for the long term.

Also it's blatantly illegal to discriminate against vets or reservists, and every military applicant is one or both.

rickair7777

I think 117 had a big impact, but also concur that Anita is leaving a LOT of efficiency on the table due to pure laziness/narrow-mindedness/incompetence in CS. They DESPERATELY need to upgrade to windows 98 and pentium processors

One of our small bases had a incident recently where apparently a new-hire CS person was assigned the task of building pairings for the next month. She was apparently a bit obtuse and not supervised well, and since it required more work and mental horsepower to figure out overnights, she built an entire month using only locals with no or almost no multiday trips (possible since this was a satellite base, not a hub). Nobody noticed until it was too late...lot of peed-off commuters blew half their paychecks on hotels that month.