Surprise

I think a few make it to the line that maybe shouldn't have, too. Not many, but a few.

coryk

Probably true just about anywhere I'd imagine? I thought SkyWest has a pretty good training department than most?

Surprise

Probably, and yes. I'm not trying to denigrate the training department at all. They do a good job. After all, they got me through!

wrxpilot

Since you just went through it, is it a rumor or not?

When I went through last year, the limitations test (for the EMB) was most definitely NOT a one strike and you're out deal. It wasn't even a PRIA reportable event. A couple of guys in my class failed it a couple of times, and basically had to re-test on it until they got it right. But the EMB has about 2x more stuff to memorize than the CRJ, so maybe they were more lenient with us.

The systems test was a different story... Fail it once and it's a PRIA event. They give you one more chance to pass, but fail again and you're out.

mfr2063

Thanks for all the responses.

A little tongue in cheek but reminds me of an instructor who said, "You'll do fine as long as don't mess up." There's a lot to be said for a pilot who makes reasonable progress and pushes hard to make the grade.

jheath

That's accurate as I saw it. The limitations test was graded by the guy sitting next to you. You wrote the score on the front, they asked if anyone failed (missed 5 or more), and I don't think they even opened them after that. Failing the systems test, however, is a PRIA reportable event. There were a couple of guys in my class who struggled but to the best of my knowledge they all made it through sims and OE (they're still on the seniority list at least).

It's hard to say if the training department is better than most because I can only speak to my own experiences, but I came from another 121 airline and the training department at SkyWest was leaps and bounds better than my last company. No question, hands down, much, much better. There are a lot of very smart and capable people teaching the material, they provide a million resources, and they give you so much sim time it's almost too much. I had a great experience during training, though what other people have said about attitude is absolutely correct. Show up willing to work and ready to learn, try your best at all times and you'll be just fine.

tyurchevich

jheath speaks the truth. I was in his class with him. I dont have any 121 experience to compare it to as I was a CFI before but I found the training excellent. The limitations test they want you to know 100%. It might not be a fail one and done or even a PRIA test but to not know the material when you get to class is just dumb. It is all need to know stuff. The systems final is a fail out type of test but you get more than once to take it. The whole 3 strikes I believe. But no one in our class needed more than once to take it. Very good review in ground school the day before. Just take the time to study. Show up willing to learn and everyone will do fine.

Terantious

Although the memory items/limitations exam is not a "PRIA" recorded event the final systems exam IS. As tyurchevich stated, you should know the memory items/limitations material prior to showing up and pass it the first time. You are mailed the study packet well in advance before coming to class and if you do not study it before you show up you are already behind.

You only get to take the final exam twice, if you cannot pass the second time then dismissal of employment. So i would make every effort to pass the first time. Not only in order to move on in the training program, but failing the exam the first time goes in your "PRIA" record, which you will have to explain to the Legacy Carriers (failed training event) if that`s your goal.

Surprise

Junior guy in the most recent EMB upgrade class has been here a few weeks shy of five years.

And just to throw a grenade out there, SkyWest may be operating some really long RJs with XJ on the tail in the not-too-distant future.

drrhythm2

And what makes you say that, other than for the fun of grenade throwing?