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Old 01-04-2015, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck
New hires are going to SFO but TG himself said they could be displaced if it came down to it with the scaling back on the bro.
This happened to a buddy of mine who just passed training in the 175, actually. Was going to be SFO based but got bumped to ORD :/
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Old 01-04-2015, 05:23 PM
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Thanks gents, CRJ it is! Which west coast bases are junior? Any estimates on how long it'll take to get SEA? (just trying to get a rough idea). Thanks again.
To piggy back on this question, does anyone have a general list of junior to most senior bases, and also general time to get each base?

I have a class date at the end of March at SkyWest. Just curious how things are looking. I'd like to get PHX, but I'm not sure what the wait time is to get there.
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Old 01-04-2015, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Snapshot217
Thanks gents, CRJ it is! Which west coast bases are junior? Any estimates on how long it'll take to get SEA? (just trying to get a rough idea). Thanks again.
In the last bid award a few days ago people with less than 3 months seniority got SFO and LAX. Typically DEN and COS are junior to just about anywhere west of there but things have moved around a lot lately. I'd say that it's nearly impossible to predict how things will be moving by the time you hit the line. The good news for you is that things are moving and right now you'd be able to hold SFO or LAX pretty quickly and SEA within a year. Just a few months ago the most junior FO in SEA was 6 years. It's dropped that much recently.

There's no real way to predict when all of that might slow down. Buckle in and enjoy the roller coaster.
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Old 01-04-2015, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by CloudShredder
To piggy back on this question, does anyone have a general list of junior to most senior bases, and also general time to get each base?
Most junior (get them right out of training): MSP, ORD, DEN

Moderately junior (transfer awarded within a few months): IAH, COS, SLC, TUS and more recently LAX and SFO.

Most senior (1+ year to hold): SEA, PDX, PHX, FAT, PSP. These are all small bases and west coast which is mostly why they're so senior. SEA is growing and due to the growth has gone much more junior recently.

The most junior FO in PHX is a 05/2013 hire. TUS is more junior with the bottom FO being a 06/2014 hire.

LAX, SFO and SLC tend to be wild card bases. They're all huge bases and once in a while they swing extremely junior, and other times they become senior.
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Old 01-04-2015, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by rcfd13
Most junior (get them right out of training): MSP, ORD, DEN

Moderately junior (transfer awarded within a few months): IAH, COS, SLC, TUS and more recently LAX and SFO.

Most senior (1+ year to hold): SEA, PDX, PHX, FAT, PSP. These are all small bases and west coast which is mostly why they're so senior. SEA is growing and due to the growth has gone much more junior recently.

The most junior FO in PHX is a 05/2013 hire. TUS is more junior with the bottom FO being a 06/2014 hire.

LAX, SFO and SLC tend to be wild card bases. They're all huge bases and once in a while they swing extremely junior, and other times they become senior.
Thanks for the info.
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Old 01-04-2015, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by rcfd13



The most junior FO in PHX is a 05/2013 hire.
I think he was hired in Jan this year.
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Old 01-04-2015, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck
Congrats and welcome aboard!

IMO, avoid the ejet like the plague regardless of where you want to be based. Last few bids have shown senior people start to bid over. Though they may hold a line now, new hires on the erj will spend eons on reserves? New hires are going to SFO but TG himself said they could be displaced if it came down to it with the scaling back on the bro. If you want the jet in the future, you can always bid over later.

Anyway, since you want Seattle I wouldn't even think twice about it. The ejet lines will likely go super senior, as there is already a substantial bid list for Seattle erj already.
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Old 01-04-2015, 08:23 PM
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Since I'm typing on a phone this will be short but I'd actually suggest the 175 if you live in Chicago. QOL is much better IMO on it than the CRJ. At a year in it's just about impossible to hold any 7/9 pairings and most of the 200 pairings are incredibly inefficient. On average during the slow months I've seen myself at 11 days off holding mostly 4-5:30 credit locals with 4/6 legs. Whereas the 175 type of flying nets you longer leg lengths and less legs. To me that's more desirable, but the give up is more 4 days and less locals on the 175's. I'm ok with that though because I've found myself much more tired doing 4-6 days straight of locals and only having 2 days off between blocks of 6 days on.
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Old 01-04-2015, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Snapshot217
Thanks gents, CRJ it is! Which west coast bases are junior? Any estimates on how long it'll take to get SEA? (just trying to get a rough idea). Thanks again.
Hey buddy, lax, SFO, den, cos, and iah all going very junior right now. Along with msp and ord as usual. You could hold lax and SFO within 3-4 months of training and den or cos even sooner, based on my experiences so far. This may change with bro transitions. So far the extra crj flying we have picked up, erj expansion, and attrition have more than made up for the bro transitions but they haven't really amped it up yet. We will see!
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Old 01-04-2015, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
While I don't agree with the extremity of the guys posts he makes good points. Especially regarding reserve, people are sitting reserve 1-2 months at most right now. It takes a solid year to see even half of the tricks. Reserve at SKW needs to be fixed, just because reserve times are running short right now and most new hires escaped without much pain doesn't mean we should forget how some of our reserve rules are written or enforced.

It's actually refreshing to hear a Senior Captain understand how reserve really works. Half the guys I fly with didn't spend more than a few months on reserve and were more than willing to pass the phone over to you.
Agree on the reserve point. Reserve here is horrific. I'm on day 6 of 6 away from base after reflow after reflow....
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