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Old 12-23-2014, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Cruz5350
All I was referring to was the you should quit comment that's it. I've worked with sour people it is what it is and it didn't ruin my day or affect safety in any matter. My only concern right now is how I'm going to get paid when I time out.
Ahh, my bad. As previously posted I have enjoyed working with everyone so far here, but I have flown with people in the past that made life more difficult than need be because of attitude. And I have been listening in on those Monday conference calls because as you stated being paid is kind of important, we are on the same team .... But my point was If one hates their position/company enough to tell others to keep away when the majority are greatful for their position/company shouldn't the minority consider making personal changes to make themselves happy instead of making those around them miserable?
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Old 12-23-2014, 08:44 PM
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While I agree that if you're not happy with work you should look for something else it's a lot easier said than done. I'm pretty nervous about what I'm going to do for pay when I time out.
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Old 12-23-2014, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Cruz5350
While I agree that if you're not happy with work you should look for something else it's a lot easier said than done. I'm pretty nervous about what I'm going to do for pay when I time out.


I would very much like to know the result of that. Seems to me that a guaranteed min is a guaranteed min. Timing out due to restrictive regs or to working extra shifts definitely should not affect that, in my humble opinion and assuming that my understanding of the issue is correct.
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Old 12-23-2014, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by flyingberk
I would very much like to know the result of that. Seems to me that a guaranteed min is a guaranteed min. Timing out due to restrictive regs or to working extra shifts definitely should not affect that, in my humble opinion and assuming that my understanding of the issue is correct.
I agree I think min guarantee should be paid regardless, but according to an FO on the internal forums he was not paid min guarantee and used some vacation time to bring up his monthly pay. I'm sure we'll here about this more once we start seeing it happen more regularly. For now the only option Sapa had for us was to bid reserve to help mitigate it, but I sure as heck don't want to be on reserve again.
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Old 12-23-2014, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MoovenUP
Did you happen to see what Check Complete posted to which I began responding to? I announce to the world I like my job and current position, and that I believe SkyWest is a good place to come, and I am being labeled as Mr. Negative?

I have been at SkyWest well over 15 years.

When I see 40 year and 30 year employees getting terminated, I get ****ed. I've seen lots of changes here, this isn't what it used to be , and really, it shouldn't be. But it doesn't need to cut the core of this institution, which is what is happening. I don't recognize this place anymore. If I were in a position to choose I'd take someplace with a better upgrade schedule.

My point is this isn't the SkyWest of yesterday, and people should know.........
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Old 12-23-2014, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Complete
I have been at SkyWest well over 15 years.

When I see 40 year and 30 year employees getting terminated, I get ****ed. I've seen lots of changes here, this isn't what it used to be , and really, it shouldn't be. But it doesn't need to cut the core of this institution, which is what is happening. I don't recognize this place anymore. If I were in a position to choose I'd take someplace with a better upgrade schedule.

My point is this isn't the SkyWest of yesterday, and people should know.........
Who was terminated?
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Old 12-24-2014, 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by saxman66
The last upgrade to be awarded was a October 2007 hire. There was no hiring between December 2007 and September 2010. But there are still quite few end of 2007 hires to get through before the upgrades skip to the 2010 hires. Plus the more senior FO's that are holding out to be lineholders. And then a few Bro captains that have to transition to the jet as well. At the current rate of upgrades, I'd be willing to bet a few 2010 hires could upgrade mid to late 2015.


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There are around 100 pilots left on the seniority list that were hired in 2008. Classes were 01/07, 01/28, 02/18, 04/07, 05/05, 06/02.
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Old 12-24-2014, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by MoovenUP
Hey how about you quit, climb under a rock and make yourself disappear. Let me move up the list.

TO THOSE LOOKING AT SKYWEST:
So far I really like SkyWest, after 2.5 months on reserve I am holding a line, I live where I want, I work with a lot of fun and very knowledgeable people and I look forward to my future with SkyWest and beyond. We are expanding, and we may not keep getting pay increases because of way too many regionals signing concessionary contracts, but I believe we will stay towards the top of the regional list to work at.
Got to love someone who only sits 2.5 months of reserve telling everyone how fantastic SkyWest is. There is SkyWest for line holders, which is not a bad gig. And SkyWest reserve which is a company where you think you have sold your soul and wonder why the hell you thought spending all those years becoming a pilot was a good idea.

Funny thing is that line is become less and less defined and line holders are getting bent over on a regular basis. With the latest being that pilots are awarded so much flying with our ****ty PBS system, that they are timing out and have the possibility of not getting paid without using vacation time.

I wish I had worked for the SkyWest of old. As of right now, they are just another regional. Except they are just another regional that does not have the legal backing of a contract, no flow through to a major and currently an 8 year upgrade. I would recommend someone to go anywhere else as well.
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Old 12-24-2014, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by skiK2
There are around 100 pilots left on the seniority list that were hired in 2008. Classes were 01/07, 01/28, 02/18, 04/07, 05/05, 06/02.
About how many CA upgrades are happening per month right now?
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Old 12-24-2014, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by CloudShredder
About how many CA upgrades are happening per month right now?
24 for October class, 24 for November, 22 for December and 52 for January.

Most junior Capt from last award is a 10/22/2007 hire. But there are about 380 FO's above that number that may be holding off to avoid reserve or base preference. Plus over 100 EMB Captains that will need to transition.

So there is a strong possibility that even with 50 upgrades per month, we could be another year just getting through the 2007 hires and Bro transitions.
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