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#7941
It all seems pretty silly to me. I currently work for a 135 operator with CASS and ride in the back of DL flights every week. Why can't they just list you for the JS through CASS and put you in the back if there's a seat open? As soon as they put in OO to look for you in CASS does it just flash a huge frowny face on the screen??
#7942
I think the idea of denying a fellow pilot a ride home or a ride to work is ridiculous. I don't agree with CCB's method, but I do agree with his point. Why would a pilot not be allowed a seat in the back? As previously stated in this thread, the E175 guys are not offered Delta Benefits and cannot sign up so they are denied a seat in the back by the gate agent (personally I think this is the problem). If there is a seat available then you get a ride, regardless.
#7943
Lifer, nope apps out and will bolt at the first opportunity.
#7944
ClickBoom clearly stated that Delta guys should be denied jumpseats on SkyWest until Delta fixes the issue. If anyone is off their meds it is him. Not a good way to get anything fixed.
Seems to me you guys should just pay the $50 and the problem is solved. To non-rev anywhere you have to pay that $50 anyways. I don't completely understand the issue, but denying jumpseats is not going to get this fixed sooner. I'd imagine you guys would end up worse off in the long run if you start denying Delta guys the jumpseat.
Seems to me you guys should just pay the $50 and the problem is solved. To non-rev anywhere you have to pay that $50 anyways. I don't completely understand the issue, but denying jumpseats is not going to get this fixed sooner. I'd imagine you guys would end up worse off in the long run if you start denying Delta guys the jumpseat.
May just be my shortsighted opinion but paying for a negotiated Professional privilege just doesn't seem right, especially when you support contracted operations for that specific airline. Again I completely understand non-revenue leisure travel to be different from Jumpseating to and from work. Just my two cents. I hope OO and DL get that resolved in a professional manner.
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#7945
It all seems pretty silly to me. I currently work for a 135 operator with CASS and ride in the back of DL flights every week. Why can't they just list you for the JS through CASS and put you in the back if there's a seat open? As soon as they put in OO to look for you in CASS does it just flash a huge frowny face on the screen??
#7948
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It all seems pretty silly to me. I currently work for a 135 operator with CASS and ride in the back of DL flights every week. Why can't they just list you for the JS through CASS and put you in the back if there's a seat open? As soon as they put in OO to look for you in CASS does it just flash a huge frowny face on the screen??
The problem is that DAL needs a PPR number for SkyWest pilots. If you don't pay the fine, I mean fee, you can not get a PPR number. The 175 guys can't get one regardless. Everything that has been said here is correct and it really is an IT issue with DAL.
I feel this should start out as a letter to individual Delta pilots using their jump privileges and if there is no fix in sight then denial. I participated in the pressure on United years ago and it was successful. I don't think this is an issue where DALPA doesn't care but it's not real high on their priority list and they have bigger fish to fry with DAL. Right up until guys start missing their commute.
And, if I have an FO that cannot tolerate my decision of who gets to use the jumpseat, please find and use the main cabin door.
#7949
The problem is that DAL needs a PPR number for SkyWest pilots. If you don't pay the fine, I mean fee, you can not get a PPR number. The 175 guys can't get one regardless. Everything that has been said here is correct and it really is an IT issue with DAL.
I feel this should start out as a letter to individual Delta pilots using their jump privileges and if there is no fix in sight then denial. I participated in the pressure on United years ago and it was successful. I don't think this is an issue where DALPA doesn't care but it's not real high on their priority list and they have bigger fish to fry with DAL. Right up until guys start missing their commute.
And, if I have an FO that cannot tolerate my decision of who gets to use the jumpseat, please find and use the main cabin door.
I feel this should start out as a letter to individual Delta pilots using their jump privileges and if there is no fix in sight then denial. I participated in the pressure on United years ago and it was successful. I don't think this is an issue where DALPA doesn't care but it's not real high on their priority list and they have bigger fish to fry with DAL. Right up until guys start missing their commute.
And, if I have an FO that cannot tolerate my decision of who gets to use the jumpseat, please find and use the main cabin door.
A PPR number to jumpseat? Strange. Oh well. It's just crazy that a Skywest 175 guy can't ride on DAL but a Shorts 360 driver with no airline affiliation can.
#7950
The problem is that DAL needs a PPR number for SkyWest pilots. If you don't pay the fine, I mean fee, you can not get a PPR number. The 175 guys can't get one regardless. Everything that has been said here is correct and it really is an IT issue with DAL.
I feel this should start out as a letter to individual Delta pilots using their jump privileges and if there is no fix in sight then denial. I participated in the pressure on United years ago and it was successful. I don't think this is an issue where DALPA doesn't care but it's not real high on their priority list and they have bigger fish to fry with DAL. Right up until guys start missing their commute.
And, if I have an FO that cannot tolerate my decision of who gets to use the jumpseat, please find and use the main cabin door.
I feel this should start out as a letter to individual Delta pilots using their jump privileges and if there is no fix in sight then denial. I participated in the pressure on United years ago and it was successful. I don't think this is an issue where DALPA doesn't care but it's not real high on their priority list and they have bigger fish to fry with DAL. Right up until guys start missing their commute.
And, if I have an FO that cannot tolerate my decision of who gets to use the jumpseat, please find and use the main cabin door.
I'm not a commuter, but have been before and most likely will end up one again someday. If there are any E-jet guys trying to get on a flight that I'm working, I'll make sure the boss lets the gate agent know what's up. If the agents have a work around, then we'll go when the work around gets done. If not, we'll go late. THAT will get Delta to fix it faster than getting DALPA involved via a threat of a jumpseat ban.
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