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#7801
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Before you arrange the facts the way you see it, you might want to include that the Alaska pilots decided between furlough protection in a merger or scope. They chose merger protection as it was very likely they would be purchased and getting both wasn't possible.
#7802
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Before you arrange the facts the way you see it, you might want to include that the Alaska pilots decided between furlough protection in a merger or scope. They chose merger protection as it was very likely they would be purchased and getting both wasn't possible.
#7804
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While I like to see mainline flying, it is my opinion the northwest cities to places like stl, okc, MKE would never see a 737 anyway. Too thin of routes. This is mainline flying true, but mainline flying that really couldnt really be profitable, i.e. Not happening.
Now I'd be for Alaska flying the 175s themselves.
Now I'd be for Alaska flying the 175s themselves.
#7805
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While I like to see mainline flying, it is my opinion the northwest cities to places like stl, okc, MKE would never see a 737 anyway. Too thin of routes. This is mainline flying true, but mainline flying that really couldnt really be profitable, i.e. Not happening.
Now I'd be for Alaska flying the 175s themselves.
Now I'd be for Alaska flying the 175s themselves.
#7806
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And clearly doing so on a 737 isn't full enough or profitable enough for them to continue since they're contracting it out. I can respect that there are routes that are better served by RJ sized planes. I think most people just wish that mainline pilots would fly the E175s and not regional pilots.
#7807
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And clearly doing so on a 737 isn't full enough or profitable enough for them to continue since they're contracting it out. I can respect that there are routes that are better served by RJ sized planes. I think most people just wish that mainline pilots would fly the E175s and not regional pilots.
Before you arrange the facts the way you see it, you might want to include that the Alaska pilots decided between furlough protection in a merger or scope. They chose merger protection as it was very likely they would be purchased and getting both wasn't possible.
#7808
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And clearly doing so on a 737 isn't full enough or profitable enough for them to continue since they're contracting it out. I can respect that there are routes that are better served by RJ sized planes. I think most people just wish that mainline pilots would fly the E175s and not regional pilots.
#7809
Actually it was a 19.83% pay raise that they dangled.... And merger/furlough protection. The reason the more senior pilots are more concerned with merger protection than scope is because they still have their pension. They are more concerned with protecting their pension than protecting flying. Hopefully as the list changes to more of us without a pension we will be able to change the mentality of the pilot group and better protect our flying.
#7810
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I really try to think of myself as a positive person. I enjoy going to work, get along with my crews, and generally have a positive outlook on life. But lately I have been stewing about all this crap going on and I keep wondering when enough will be enough for SkyWest pilots.
Each month we see our bids get jacked to high heaven. It has finally got bad enough that it has worked itself up the ranks to the senior people dropping off and giving them PN's and CN's. I have dealt for years with PBS dropping off 3 day pairings and awarding me 4 days due to "line constraints" So I would have to work 3 or 4 more days away from home so PBS could give me an extra 5 hours of work. We all know it's because our pairing suck, so when will we get some oversight to the pairings that are being created? What do we need to do to get that oversight?
Now I was a no vote last year. I saw that the Bro was going away, and that we should have got more for the E-175 rate or something better for everybody in the last pay package. Unfortunately, I was in the minority but everyone was so excited that it was only a year "contract" and we could negotiate something more when terms were more favorable.
So now here we are, with companies offering 30K for people to stick around, flying that is being farmed out to other regionals because they can't staff it, problems filling classes and yet we have suspended our pay talks?? Nobody thought that we should have a provision to fall back to a COLA of 2% if an agreement can't be reached? What is the urgency for the company to come back to the table? We can't strike. Hell, we can't do much of anything because we don't have the protections that most of the other airlines have.
This is my first airline gig. I got to the party later in life, but I wanted to work at SkyWest because they were a good company with good employees. I didn't realize how important a union was until I was already on property. I used to think we didn't need a union, but I just wish everyone could open their eyes and see what has happened to this once proud company over the past 8 years. Yeah, I still think we have it better than most. But my biggest fear is that by the time everyone realizes how bad it can get, it will be way too late.
I guess I just need to quit pining about how good it could be and just waste less time on the forums and more time getting my app updated.
Each month we see our bids get jacked to high heaven. It has finally got bad enough that it has worked itself up the ranks to the senior people dropping off and giving them PN's and CN's. I have dealt for years with PBS dropping off 3 day pairings and awarding me 4 days due to "line constraints" So I would have to work 3 or 4 more days away from home so PBS could give me an extra 5 hours of work. We all know it's because our pairing suck, so when will we get some oversight to the pairings that are being created? What do we need to do to get that oversight?
Now I was a no vote last year. I saw that the Bro was going away, and that we should have got more for the E-175 rate or something better for everybody in the last pay package. Unfortunately, I was in the minority but everyone was so excited that it was only a year "contract" and we could negotiate something more when terms were more favorable.
So now here we are, with companies offering 30K for people to stick around, flying that is being farmed out to other regionals because they can't staff it, problems filling classes and yet we have suspended our pay talks?? Nobody thought that we should have a provision to fall back to a COLA of 2% if an agreement can't be reached? What is the urgency for the company to come back to the table? We can't strike. Hell, we can't do much of anything because we don't have the protections that most of the other airlines have.
This is my first airline gig. I got to the party later in life, but I wanted to work at SkyWest because they were a good company with good employees. I didn't realize how important a union was until I was already on property. I used to think we didn't need a union, but I just wish everyone could open their eyes and see what has happened to this once proud company over the past 8 years. Yeah, I still think we have it better than most. But my biggest fear is that by the time everyone realizes how bad it can get, it will be way too late.
I guess I just need to quit pining about how good it could be and just waste less time on the forums and more time getting my app updated.
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