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Old 09-25-2014, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by kfahmi
You darn right I'd be pullin' out the book. Sadly they won't let you do that on the indoc test

By the way, is there an Android or iPhone app that just tracks all your duty time limitations and what-not? Seems like that would be a lot easier than actually having to remember this stuff...
I have a droid and use one titled FAR 117 Pilot Duty Time. Real original, I know, but it seems to work fairly well for keeping track of your duty day and flight time limitations for each duty period. For cumulative totals and look back stuff, SkedPlus will keep track.
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Old 09-25-2014, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Cruz5350
I tried explaining it to the instructor but I guess some thing's just never end... Anyways in 3 years of flying 121 I've used 3585 once and we pulled out the books when it happened to CYA.
I've also only used it once in 3 years and I remember being really excited about it at the time since it's so rare. Understanding part 117 and duty period extensions is something I seem to make use of weekly however.
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Old 09-25-2014, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by etflies
I have a droid and use one titled FAR 117 Pilot Duty Time. Real original, I know, but it seems to work fairly well for keeping track of your duty day and flight time limitations for each duty period. For cumulative totals and look back stuff, SkedPlus will keep track.
Ah ha. Thank you. That will soon be installed on my phone!
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Old 09-25-2014, 08:54 PM
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As a corollary, though, I gotta say...the indoc instructors have been really solid. I'm impressed. There's some laugh-out-loud stuff in the classroom material, as well.

And one instructor's caricature of a clueless pax wandering out to the Brasilia and staring at it in horror as the realization dawns that he must fly on a plane with (gasp!) -- propellers -- was priceless, and brought the house down.

They even fed us breakfast, lunch, and dinner on Day 1 of indoc. (The CRM instructors -- A and P -- bought us dinner out of their own pockets.) Plus we were fed lunch on Day 2. Certainly very helpful when you get into SLC at 2200 hrs on Sunday night and don't have any time to hit the grocery store.

For guys in the October classes: Make sure you do a grocery store run in your first couple of days. There are no eating options within walking distance of the training center. Even if you have a car, Subway is about the only place you can race to during your :30 lunch break. And the only thing in the vending machines at the training center are candy, chips, and a couple of scary-looking Salisbury steak microwave meals. Fortunately, the hotel offers a grocery run on Tues/Thurs/Sat. We went to Harmon's City Center downtown (using a fellow new-hire's car)...what an awesome supermarket. It puts any organic/ healthy supermarket in San Francisco to shame, which is saying something. So yes, even in SLC, you can munch on kale chips, organic tomatoes, and quinoa snacks, as I am doing now

The one place I haven't found, though, is where I can buy some decent beer or wine. The state store down the street sells 3.2% beer. Seriously?!?

OK, back to MELs, CDLs, NEFs, and OMGs.
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Old 09-25-2014, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
There's a state liquor store down North Temple, I only bought hard stuff there but thought they had everything. Tell 'em FaceBiter sent ya.
Izzat the one about a 10-minute walk from the Candlewood?
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Old 09-25-2014, 09:23 PM
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Good luck finding booze in Utah. It's possible to get buzzed, but if you do find a bar you have to buy twice as many drinks and down them twice as quickly.
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Old 09-26-2014, 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
Good luck finding booze in Utah. It's possible to get buzzed, but if you do find a bar you have to buy twice as many drinks and down them twice as quickly.
Wrong. The domestics are 3.2 beer. True. Same as Colorado and Minnesota and Oklahoma. But as in those states you can buy out of state/country bottled beers at a bar at respectable levels.

Thank goodness they got rid of that ridiculous social club membership rule when the Olympics came to town.
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Old 09-26-2014, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by JustAMushroom
Wrong. The domestics are 3.2 beer. True. Same as Colorado and Minnesota and Oklahoma. But as in those states you can buy out of state/country bottled beers at a bar at respectable levels.

Thank goodness they got rid of that ridiculous social club membership rule when the Olympics came to town.
I thought they got rid of the 3.2 law entirely. Not yet?
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Old 09-26-2014, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by kfahmi
And one instructor's caricature of a clueless pax wandering out to the Brasilia and staring at it in horror as the realization dawns that he must fly on a plane with (gasp!) -- propellers -- was priceless, and brought the house down.
Back in the day, we got used to the Japanese tourists posing for a pic in front of the prop...they ALL did it, and probably on every airplane they got on. But to this day I recall a non-revving UAL FA who also wanted to pose with the 'ol weedwhacker.
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Old 09-26-2014, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by kfahmi
We went to Harmon's City Center downtown (using a fellow new-hire's car)...what an awesome supermarket. It puts any organic/ healthy supermarket in San Francisco to shame, which is saying something. So yes, even in SLC, you can munch on kale chips, organic tomatoes, and quinoa snacks, as I am doing now
SLC definitely has a hippy/granola/outdoor undercurrent, you just have to know where to look (hint: not in the west valley ).

It's a nice time of year for a hike too. Try Mill Creek canyon or Little Cottonwood canyon.
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