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Old 09-23-2014, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Jet87
I don't know if I would consider a 3 year FO junior.
I'm a 3 year FO and I feel pretty junior.. I always wonder when they're going to let me start flying those fancy 700s and 900s I hear so much about that go way senior to me in the bid.
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Old 09-23-2014, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Paid2fly
Not so sure the "FCC" would care, maybe you meant SEC???
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The FCC.....Riiiight
Yeah yeah yeah, oops, you know I meant the SEC.
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Old 09-23-2014, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by air101
More 900s are on the way for DL... timeline for announcement is still a bit sketch, but it should be fairly soon.
Where would they get the 900's , they don't make them anymore unless you already have firm orders on the books. Possibly ASA or more likely pinnacle (you can change the name all you want, they're still pinnacle and eagle is eagle) unless they can find some in a foreign country (unlikely)
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Old 09-23-2014, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by spaaks
Where would they get the 900's , they don't make them anymore unless you already have firm orders on the books. Possibly ASA or more likely pinnacle (you can change the name all you want, they're still pinnacle and eagle is eagle) unless they can find some in a foreign country (unlikely)

you're on the right track... they aren't new orders.
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Old 09-24-2014, 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Seminole00
The ones from Endeavor?
In my opinion that would be unlikely. Endeavor's cost structure is a lot cheaper than ASA's to operate the 900's and their performance is good. Additionally, staffing is currently not an issue with their plan to operate 81 900's. My guess is that their maybe some shuffling from within the Inc. system for the 900's and ASA might get some of the Endeavor 200's they are parking. In any case I'm amazed at tone of excitement I hear in regards to getting more 900's that would undoubtedly cause hardships on other pilot groups and especially when one is part of Skywest. That right there is a good example of what's wrong with the regional industry
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Old 09-24-2014, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by gojo
In my opinion that would be unlikely. Endeavor's cost structure is a lot cheaper than ASA's to operate the 900's and their performance is good. Additionally, staffing is currently not an issue with their plan to operate 81 900's. My guess is that their maybe some shuffling from within the Inc. system for the 900's and ASA might get some of the Endeavor 200's they are parking. In any case I'm amazed at tone of excitement I hear in regards to getting more 900's that would undoubtedly cause hardships on other pilot groups and especially when one is part of Skywest. That right there is a good example of what's wrong with the regional industry
While I agree with your last sentence, no one seemed "excited" about it.

Fact of the matter is, it sucks for those who lose airplanes. It sucks even worse for those who lose airplanes due to someone undercutting them.

We haven't done the latter so it really is out of our hands as pilots. It's unfortunate for any who lose the flying, but if we didn't change anything by undercutting them, feel bad is all we can do, we had no say in it.
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Old 09-24-2014, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by gojo
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In my opinion that would be unlikely. Endeavor's cost structure is a lot cheaper than ASA's to operate the 900's and their performance is good. Additionally, staffing is currently not an issue with their plan to operate 81 900's. My guess is that their maybe some shuffling from within the Inc. system for the 900's and ASA might get some of the Endeavor 200's they are parking. In any case I'm amazed at tone of excitement I hear in regards to getting more 900's that would undoubtedly cause hardships on other pilot groups and especially when one is part of Skywest. That right there is a good example of what's wrong with the regional industry
Please point out where someone was "excited" to get someone else's 900s.
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Old 09-24-2014, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by gojo
In any case I'm amazed at tone of excitement I hear in regards to getting more 900's that would undoubtedly cause hardships on other pilot groups and especially when one is part of Skywest. That right there is a good example of what's wrong with the regional industry
Everyone at the regionals has a common goal to get out. No one 'owns' any of the flying. We're all contractors. No one wishes hardships among others but we still all want to get out and getting more flying means more movement and quicker upgrades. This is just how the game is played. It's the same with any industry that uses contractors.

Refusing new flying in order to 'do what's right' just means someone else is going to take it while our upgrade time increases. It's a noble thought but no one is going to do it.
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Old 09-24-2014, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by gojo
In any case I'm amazed at tone of excitement I hear in regards to getting more 900's that would undoubtedly cause hardships on other pilot groups and especially when one is part of Skywest. That right there is a good example of what's wrong with the regional industry

That's exactly what I was thinking. Lately though, that attitude is coming from only a handful of regionals.
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Old 09-24-2014, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Jet87
Please point out where someone was "excited" to get someone else's 900s.
They're always excited.
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