Originally Posted by amcnd

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Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck


Ugh. Can we please stop with the union talk. The fact that skywest doesn't have (or need) a unions was a big factor in m decision to go there.




Yes!! Please do!! And one more thing Nevjets... You nee to know JA to understand how he is running SkyWest Inc.. They have always believed in "taking care of its people".. The part you and xjt hates, is they dont believe they are a part of that.. And your probably right..

Originally Posted by JustAMushroom

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Originally Posted by amcnd


Yes!! Please do!! And one more thing Nevjets... You nee to know JA to understand how he is running SkyWest Inc.. They have always believed in "taking care of its people".. The part you and xjt hates, is they dont believe they are a part of that.. And your probably right..





Oh Jezus. You have no idea what is in JA mind any more than you know what's in Nev's. You make assumptions from your limited information. I don't know if you've been around long enough to know he has publicly opined OO is always looking to buy and always looking to sell.

This is business. You're not some subject of a benevolent master. Nev has made some good points about how OO pilots get shafted and accept it willingly. I think he is wrong about his methodology but some of his observations are spot on.

Originally Posted by Nevets

I met him in person when he was trying to buy xjt in 2008. Asked him a couple of questions, SPECIFICALLY, of how he would treat us! I found him to be cold and calculating.

We are now part of his people and has only treated all of us, like caged rats. He uses you guys against us in negotiations. That's how he pits us against each other. It's nice to know that you guys don't care though. But go ahead and be proud to work for someone who does that to his fellow man.



I sometimes make the mistake of taking it personal. It is just a business. But that will NEVER be an excuse to not treat people fairly. And he has never done that with us. It's shameful. But what bothers me more than his business decisions, is the apathy or Stockholm syndrome or whatever you want to call the collective non-action of Skywest pilots. I can understand that your first year you will be naive to what's going on. But in today's instant communication/media age, there is no excuse after that. And yet, nothing happens. That's the frustrating part of all this. And I guess it shows. So for that, I apologize for being antagonistic.

Originally Posted by DD214

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Originally Posted by Nevets


I met him in person when he was trying to buy xjt in 2008. Asked him a couple of questions, SPECIFICALLY, of how he would treat us! I found him to be cold and calculating.

We are now part of his people and has only treated all of us, like caged rats. He uses you guys against us in negotiations. That's how he pits us against each other. It's nice to know that you guys don't care though. But go ahead and be proud to work for someone who does that to his fellow man.



I sometimes make the mistake of taking it personal. It is just a business. But that will NEVER be an excuse to not treat people fairly. And he has never done that with us. It's shameful. But what bothers me more than his business decisions, is the apathy or Stockholm syndrome or whatever you want to call the collective non-action of Skywest pilots. I can understand that your first year you will be naive to what's going on. But in today's instant communication/media age, there is no excuse after that. And yet, nothing happens. That's the frustrating part of all this. And I guess it shows. So for that, I apologize for being antagonistic.




Have you ever Denied a Skywester your Jump because they fly for Skywest and if Not do you hold them captive audience and tell them how crappy of a company they are.

I am just asking? for the record I have said before Yea I get it You hate Skywest!

Originally Posted by myoface

Skywest needs a union in the worst way. You will realize that soon enough.

Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck

Ugh. Can we please stop with the union talk. The fact that skywest doesn't have (or need) a unions was a big factor in m decision to go there.

Originally Posted by Nevets

I've never had a Skywest jumpseater but I wouldn't deny them if the situation ever arose. And I would tactfully ask questions about the immoral business practice to gage the level of knowledge. Believe it or not, I've had Skywest pilot friends say they agree with me.

For the record, I have said it before, no, I don't hate Skywest, or anybody. That's a very strong word. But I don't like what Skywest management does to us. That's no secret.

Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom

Probably not, anyone who would say that being non-union was a factor in his choice is set. Then he gets to SLC, big shiny hanger, clean toilets and bichin' shiny ERJs sittin' out front, and heads into the break room and sees the giant frozen Kool-Aid machine and the hook is set. Sim, IOE, the line, it's a dream come true, right? The 3:55 call from SGU informing you to head on down to the airport and catch a series of flights/deadheads on SKW planes to the furthest point from home to sit reserve in the local airport hotel for 5 days, no flying, maybe a little ready reserve. In the meantime you consolidation days are ticking away. Oh snap, multiple trips to hit the 100hrs. Then the reality of reserve at SKYW, he will question his choice daily if not hourly.
I give him a 60/40 chance of making the year probation interview.

Originally Posted by air101

So we all know the US Airways contract (200s/900s) ends at the end of the year.... but 897S was recently repainted in the new AA livery, so perhaps they will be extended. Can't see them wasting the money to paint for 5 months.

Originally Posted by air101

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Originally Posted by Nevets


I've never had a Skywest jumpseater but I wouldn't deny them if the situation ever arose. And I would tactfully ask questions about the immoral business practice to gage the level of knowledge. Believe it or not, I've had Skywest pilot friends say they agree with me.

For the record, I have said it before, no, I don't hate Skywest, or anybody. That's a very strong word. But I don't like what Skywest management does to us. That's no secret.




drinking game. how many times are you going to use the ****ing word immoral?