Skywest
07-24-2014, 04:02 AM
#5911
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: Seat 0B
Posts: 2,300
Congrats & welcome guys!!
07-24-2014, 04:13 AM
#5912
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Joined APC: Jul 2014
Posts: 28
Welcome aboard. If I were a new hire I'd base my CRJ vs E175 decision on where I wanted to live. Right now the ERJ is only in ORD and soon SFO. The CRJ has a lot more base options. Also for now someone in a junior base will probably get off reserve quicker on the CRJ than on the E175 so that's something to keep in mind if you do plan to commute. If you live in ORD or plan to move to ORD the E175 is probably a good option for a new hire.
07-24-2014, 10:40 AM
#5913
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: EMB 145 CPT
Posts: 2,934
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevets
They are not mutually exclusive. There are many immoral business models. This is a real simple one to spot. Some others are more complicated, covert and insidious.
If Skywest pilots don't know we are pitted against each other by our CEO then they are either in denial or naive. The Skywest compensation and work rules have been used against the xjt pilots for over 6 years now! That is a fact!
Like I've said in other posts, you don't know what you don't know and your post proves my point. And just because it's business doesn't mean it's not immoral to pit your employees agains each other just to make a bit more money off their backs. He has never had the intention merge us. It's not in his nature to have all employees pulling in the same direction, on the same team, with common interests. He rather just watch us compete against each other on our compensation. That's just not right regardless of whatever corporate excuses you make for him. Stockholm syndrome much?
By the way, all the synergy savings they touted when buying xjt and merging it with ASA are doubly true for a merger of all 3 airlines. But our CEO prefers the immoral business model over saving that money.
We get it. If SkyWest improves compensation equal to XJ than we are coat-tail riders. If XJ compensation lowers then you are victims of whipsawin', and SKW pulled ya down. If nothing happens the guys at SkyWest are apathetic and have their heads in the sand. It's all the fault of SKW pilots.
Our only hope is to unionize to one list. Then maybe, hopefully, there will be incentive for management to move SKW Inc. hdq out of Jerry's hometown tax haven to ATL. Then synergies shall go forth, performance shall skyrocket, money shall be saved, XJ pilot culture will shedeth the "burn it down mentality", and lo, shall bud a flowering kumbaya relationship with SKW.
To usher in our new glorious reign, we pilots will get the joy of infighting with each other about pay, healthcare, 401k, work-rules, PBS, pilot integration, and the imminent mass fleet reduction.
Come on SkyWest pilots, the solution to XJ's problems is us! We hold the keys to THEIR future!
Originally Posted by Nevets
They are not mutually exclusive. There are many immoral business models. This is a real simple one to spot. Some others are more complicated, covert and insidious.
If Skywest pilots don't know we are pitted against each other by our CEO then they are either in denial or naive. The Skywest compensation and work rules have been used against the xjt pilots for over 6 years now! That is a fact!
Like I've said in other posts, you don't know what you don't know and your post proves my point. And just because it's business doesn't mean it's not immoral to pit your employees agains each other just to make a bit more money off their backs. He has never had the intention merge us. It's not in his nature to have all employees pulling in the same direction, on the same team, with common interests. He rather just watch us compete against each other on our compensation. That's just not right regardless of whatever corporate excuses you make for him. Stockholm syndrome much?
By the way, all the synergy savings they touted when buying xjt and merging it with ASA are doubly true for a merger of all 3 airlines. But our CEO prefers the immoral business model over saving that money.
We get it. If SkyWest improves compensation equal to XJ than we are coat-tail riders. If XJ compensation lowers then you are victims of whipsawin', and SKW pulled ya down. If nothing happens the guys at SkyWest are apathetic and have their heads in the sand. It's all the fault of SKW pilots.
Our only hope is to unionize to one list. Then maybe, hopefully, there will be incentive for management to move SKW Inc. hdq out of Jerry's hometown tax haven to ATL. Then synergies shall go forth, performance shall skyrocket, money shall be saved, XJ pilot culture will shedeth the "burn it down mentality", and lo, shall bud a flowering kumbaya relationship with SKW.
To usher in our new glorious reign, we pilots will get the joy of infighting with each other about pay, healthcare, 401k, work-rules, PBS, pilot integration, and the imminent mass fleet reduction.
Come on SkyWest pilots, the solution to XJ's problems is us! We hold the keys to THEIR future!
And who said anything about hometown and ATL? I couldn't care less about any of that! But it is fact that there would be synergy savings regardless if the company is based in SGU, ATL, or BFE. As for infighting, we've already made comments to the effect that we would take your pay and work rules.
Once we get rid of our CEO's penchant for pitting us against each other, there is no reason to burn it down. In fact, we would all be pulling in the same direction rather than competing against each other in compensation. We had a great relationship with our previous management because they didn't treat us like caged rats. Once we are treated fairly, there is no need to fight.
By the way, unionizing isn't the end all be all solution. It would take a lot more than that. But at the very least we can then start cooperate in meaningful way without interference or distraction that your current setup. You become fiduciary responsible to your constituents just as management is fiducially responsible to the shareholders. At that point, it becomes a real professional relationship where both sides can work together to address each's concerns in a fair and balanced way.
07-24-2014, 10:47 AM
#5914
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: EMB 145 CPT
Posts: 2,934
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevets
They are not mutually exclusive. There are many immoral business models. This is a real simple one to spot. Some others are more complicated, covert and insidious.
If Skywest pilots don't know we are pitted against each other by our CEO then they are either in denial or naive. The Skywest compensation and work rules have been used against the xjt pilots for over 6 years now! That is a fact!
Like I've said in other posts, you don't know what you don't know and your post proves my point. And just because it's business doesn't mean it's not immoral to pit your employees agains each other just to make a bit more money off their backs. He has never had the intention merge us. It's not in his nature to have all employees pulling in the same direction, on the same team, with common interests. He rather just watch us compete against each other on our compensation. That's just not right regardless of whatever corporate excuses you make for him. Stockholm syndrome much?
By the way, all the synergy savings they touted when buying xjt and merging it with ASA are doubly true for a merger of all 3 airlines. But our CEO prefers the immoral business model over saving that money.
immoral. immoral. immoral. immoral.
We get it, you HATE SkyWest. But lets not get it twisted here. The only one who pits employee groups against employee groups is YOU. You just float around in your own world of delusional 'facts' that you don't know whats up from down any longer. You come here and spew your hate for not only SKW but for the legacy ASQ as well. It's gotten really old. Face it. The game is over for you XJT guys... you played hardball and you lost. Your toxic attitudes and sense of entitlement has been a pure embarrassment not only to yourself, but all the actual hard working employees over at XJT who go to work every day and don't play the blame game.
Originally Posted by Nevets
They are not mutually exclusive. There are many immoral business models. This is a real simple one to spot. Some others are more complicated, covert and insidious.
If Skywest pilots don't know we are pitted against each other by our CEO then they are either in denial or naive. The Skywest compensation and work rules have been used against the xjt pilots for over 6 years now! That is a fact!
Like I've said in other posts, you don't know what you don't know and your post proves my point. And just because it's business doesn't mean it's not immoral to pit your employees agains each other just to make a bit more money off their backs. He has never had the intention merge us. It's not in his nature to have all employees pulling in the same direction, on the same team, with common interests. He rather just watch us compete against each other on our compensation. That's just not right regardless of whatever corporate excuses you make for him. Stockholm syndrome much?
By the way, all the synergy savings they touted when buying xjt and merging it with ASA are doubly true for a merger of all 3 airlines. But our CEO prefers the immoral business model over saving that money.
immoral. immoral. immoral. immoral.
We get it, you HATE SkyWest. But lets not get it twisted here. The only one who pits employee groups against employee groups is YOU. You just float around in your own world of delusional 'facts' that you don't know whats up from down any longer. You come here and spew your hate for not only SKW but for the legacy ASQ as well. It's gotten really old. Face it. The game is over for you XJT guys... you played hardball and you lost. Your toxic attitudes and sense of entitlement has been a pure embarrassment not only to yourself, but all the actual hard working employees over at XJT who go to work every day and don't play the blame game.
In the end, I'm just one person with one opinion. It's our CEO who can do the right thing or do what will make a bit more money. He is the only one who can make this right, not me.
07-24-2014, 03:53 PM
#5915
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Joined APC: Jul 2012
Posts: 101
Aug Class
Just received and accepted an offer for CRJ in the Aug class! Interview was 19 Jul.
Anyone else going to be there? Looking forward to meeting everyone and getting started.
Anyone else going to be there? Looking forward to meeting everyone and getting started.
07-24-2014, 08:15 PM
#5916
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Joined APC: Jul 2014
Posts: 28
Congrats! I'll be there but for the ERJ. A week in SLC I believe then off to STL. I'm a little concerned about it though since they don't have any material to give out a head of time for the ERJ to study. Maybe someone has some pointers. Congrats again.
07-24-2014, 10:16 PM
#5917
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Joined APC: May 2012
Posts: 1,154
Ugh. Can we please stop with the union talk. The fact that skywest doesn't have (or need) a unions was a big factor in m decision to go there.
07-25-2014, 06:54 AM
#5918
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 4,238
Yes!! Please do!! And one more thing Nevjets... You nee to know JA to understand how he is running SkyWest Inc.. They have always believed in "taking care of its people".. The part you and xjt hates, is they dont believe they are a part of that.. And your probably right..
07-25-2014, 07:30 AM
#5919
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Capt
Posts: 611
Oh Jezus. You have no idea what is in JA mind any more than you know what's in Nev's. You make assumptions from your limited information. I don't know if you've been around long enough to know he has publicly opined OO is always looking to buy and always looking to sell.
This is business. You're not some subject of a benevolent master. Nev has made some good points about how OO pilots get shafted and accept it willingly. I think he is wrong about his methodology but some of his observations are spot on.
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