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Old 05-15-2014, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by PerpetualFlyer
Do you even work here? I'm around the 2 year seniority mark and I would hold a line in the majority of our bases. And a pretty good one at that. I've been averaging 85 credit and 14 to 15 days off.
Where in my post did I say anything about not holding a line? The last time I was on reserve was a year and a half ago. All that I said is that 2 years seniority is actually pretty junior at a company with 7.5 year upgrades.

I bid 70% in one of our most junior bases so I'm not sure I believe that you're holding 15 days off with 85 credit as a 2 year FO. This month I was awarded 99 with 10 days off.
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Old 05-15-2014, 07:26 AM
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Where in my post did I say anything about not holding a line? The last time I was on reserve was a year and a half ago. All that I said is that 2 years seniority is actually pretty junior at a company with 7.5 year upgrades.

I bid 70% in one of our most junior bases so I'm not sure I believe that you're holding 15 days off with 85 credit as a 2 year FO. This month I was awarded 99 with 10 days off.
You actually can achieve 85hrs with 15days off if you know how to use PBS and swap stuff around/drop or trade when the window opens on the 24th. Not hard at all.
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You actually can achieve 85hrs with 15days off if you know how to use PBS and swap stuff around/drop or trade when the window opens on the 24th. Not hard at all.
What is PBS?
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Old 05-15-2014, 08:13 AM
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What is PBS?
Public Broadcasting Service. They survive off the generosity of viewers like you.
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Old 05-15-2014, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Slats
You actually can achieve 85hrs with 15days off if you know how to use PBS and swap stuff around/drop or trade when the window opens on the 24th. Not hard at all.
Of course you can do it that way if able, but PerpetualFlyer makes it sound like he somehow has seniority to be awarded that which I debate. Trades got a lot harder after 117. I've found it pretty hard to do anything other than trade for a different trip that falls on the same days as my awarded one.
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Originally Posted by rcfd13
Where in my post did I say anything about not holding a line? The last time I was on reserve was a year and a half ago. All that I said is that 2 years seniority is actually pretty junior at a company with 7.5 year upgrades.

I bid 70% in one of our most junior bases so I'm not sure I believe that you're holding 15 days off with 85 credit as a 2 year FO. This month I was awarded 99 with 10 days off.
Belive it or not, that's what I had for May, with a block of 9 days off in a row. Off 1-9, 4 day, off 14-15, 4 day, off 20, 4 day, off 25-27, 4 day. 15 days off and 85 credit. And that was my award, with no trades or swaps. Each 4 day paid 5 hours or better each day.
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Old 05-15-2014, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by rcfd13
Where in my post did I say anything about not holding a line? The last time I was on reserve was a year and a half ago. All that I said is that 2 years seniority is actually pretty junior at a company with 7.5 year upgrades.

I bid 70% in one of our most junior bases so I'm not sure I believe that you're holding 15 days off with 85 credit as a 2 year FO. This month I was awarded 99 with 10 days off.
I'm with rcfd, 2 years at SkyWest is not senior at all. 6 years full as FO now will not be top 30% in all of our bases. MSP is about the only RJ base that late 07 new hires and early 08 are senior FOs in base.

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You actually can achieve 85hrs with 15days off if you know how to use PBS and swap stuff around/drop or trade when the window opens on the 24th. Not hard at all.
The definition of "holding" is what your seniority can hold. Swapping stuff on sked- has nothing to do with seniority.

I agree, being savvy with PBS and swapping/dropping will enable you to sweeten the schedule quite nicely.
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Old 05-15-2014, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by skiK2
I'm with rcfd, 2 years at SkyWest is not senior at all. 6 years full as FO now will not be top 30% in all of our bases. MSP is about the only RJ base that late 07 new hires and early 08 are senior FOs in base.



The definition of "holding" is what your seniority can hold. Swapping stuff on sked- has nothing to do with seniority.

I agree, being savvy with PBS and swapping/dropping will enable you to sweeten the schedule quite nicely.
Understanding PBS can help too, see above. I got 15 days off and 85 credit this month without dropping or swapping. Am I senior? No. Do I expect this every month? No. But it is possible as long as you understand PBS and know how to bid.
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Originally Posted by PerpetualFlyer
Understanding PBS can help too, see above. I got 15 days off and 85 credit this month without dropping or swapping. Am I senior? No. Do I expect this every month? No. But it is possible as long as you understand PBS and know how to bid.
Understanding PBS helps but there's a limit as to how much it can help someone junior. When I was new I used to fly with the RSR and one of the guys who worked the PBS helpline all the time. Both would show me their bids and look at my bids and give me suggestions every month. I eventually started getting better lines than people who were somewhat senior to me. I still didn't get good lines though, just better than lines I should have gotten.

Now that we're going into a time where staffing is an issue and block hours are high I don't think there's any way to bid lower credit. After you posted about having 2 years seniority and getting 85 hours I looked at my Required Minimum Line Credit from last month and it was 89 hours. There was no way PBS could have even given me a line with 85 hours and 15 days off.
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How much could one expect to credit shooting for 12 or 13 days off?
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