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Old 04-05-2014, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by bedrock
Yes, they would. Look at Bedford's letter where he stated he was happy that XJT and AE rejected their contracts (so that RAH could swoop in and take the flying.) I can see JA taking that chance. SKYW isn't unionized anyway, and the future at the other carriers is now uncertain. SKYW goal is to be the last man standing in the knife fight; this is a way to do it.
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Old 04-05-2014, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by spaaks
Would SKW management dare to come to the pilots with a slight concessionary or an "industry leading" garbage TA like RAH's right now with the promise of growth hingeing on the vote?
The purpose I believe of the recent 1 year agreement was so that management and SAPA could see the fallout of all the other concessionary votes and then come to the table for a real solid agreement. I don't think there's going to be any real pay gains in a new agreement but perhaps some solid gains in work rules and other items that make it an attractive package. The pilot group as a whole at SkyWest is fairly happy, Jerry and Chip aren't about to upset them by offering up concessions. SkyWest has many ways it can cut costs and save money... ie: mothball ExpressJet.
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Old 04-05-2014, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by MatchPoint
You are correct, SkyWest has complete discretion over 1st year pay but cannot offer less than $22/hr. I have a close friend who is part of our interview team here at SkyWest; he was informed recently they will soon be offering all new hires with 121/135 experience second year pay. That's worth far more than a $5-$10K bonus.
That seems tricky. How much exp. required, 6 month 135/121 and right to 2nd year pay SkyWest, then all the 1st year cfi hires at SkyWest should only be on first year pay that long too.
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Old 04-05-2014, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Westerner
That seems tricky. How much exp. required, 6 month 135/121 and right to 2nd year pay SkyWest, then all the 1st year cfi hires at SkyWest should only be on first year pay that long too.
You're reading too much into it. If someone has completed a 121 training program then the trainability of that pilot is much higher and somewhat proven, that saves the company money.
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Old 04-05-2014, 09:37 AM
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What about those of us who came over from other regionals recently we should get that pay as well? I highly doubt they do that since that will cause some strife amongst the ranks if they don't.
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Old 04-05-2014, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by air101
The purpose I believe of the recent 1 year agreement was so that management and SAPA could see the fallout of all the other concessionary votes and then come to the table for a real solid agreement. I don't think there's going to be any real pay gains in a new agreement but perhaps some solid gains in work rules and other items that make it an attractive package. The pilot group as a whole at SkyWest is fairly happy, Jerry and Chip aren't about to upset them by offering up concessions. SkyWest has many ways it can cut costs and save money... ie: mothball ExpressJet.
It also allows SkyWest and SAPA to re-enter negotiations prior to our potential Delta rate rest in Oct. 2015.
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that's right, lets not upset the skw pilots screw the ejt pilots. right. you folks should feel like the delta flight attendants. one dollar more an hour buys a lot at a non union shop. but karma is karma.
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Because SKW pilots have so much say in what happens to the XJT pilots...
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Old 04-05-2014, 10:57 AM
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SkyWest is becoming a "get current and bail" mecca, the hiring standards have made this happen. The middle of the road guys being hired are competitive at the LCC's, the upper end guys are competitive at the Majors.

I know at least 5 from my class have bailed. JB, SWA and one is in the pool at UAL. I would say that 75% of the people in the class were actively interviewing or applying during sim/IOE. The upper end guys were shocked they were offered the SKW job because they pretty much needed currency and they were good to go.

If the concern is spending too much money training a CFI how to fly the CRJ, I'd guess they waste 10x this amount providing a paid currency course for the overqualified.
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Old 04-05-2014, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
that's right, lets not upset the skw pilots screw the ejt pilots. right. you folks should feel like the delta flight attendants. one dollar more an hour buys a lot at a non union shop. but karma is karma.
Just another example of a ignorant troll. Try to do something respectable and move along....
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