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Old 10-17-2013, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by deej
Thanks for the response. So best chance for a commuter living in PHX would be to get LAX as new hire.
Everyone is going to have a different answer about what's best. You should probably listen to a few different people's opinions and decide what's best for yourself. Personally if I knew I was going to be a commuter I would probably take the Brasilia so I could hold a line faster. That's what I did as a new hire and I don't regret it. You'll hold a line in LAX, FAT or SFO within a few months and those aren't bad commutes from PHX. If you start on the RJ you'll end up with a really long commute from MSP or ORD, and you'd be on reserve for years in LAX, SFO or FAT. Commuting to reserve is terrible.

The other train of thought is that if there's a lot of movement you might be able to get PHX a lot faster if you start on the CRJ as opposed to dealing with a 1 year seatlock on the Brasilia. Also they award transfers before transitions so if you were MSP based on the CRJ you would get a PHX transfer award potentially before a senior Brasilia pilot. The problem with doing it that way is that if the music suddenly stops you'll be stuck commuting to reserve for years. If you take the brasilia and everything shuts down at least you'll be commuting to a good line.
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Old 10-17-2013, 03:56 PM
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How Junior or senior is SFO for CRJ??
I mean how easy or difficult will it be for someone on the CRJ to hold SFO & how soon??
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Old 10-17-2013, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bcpilot
How Junior or senior is SFO for CRJ??
I mean how easy or difficult will it be for someone on the CRJ to hold SFO & how soon??
You could hold it within a couple months if not right away on the EMB.
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Old 10-17-2013, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bcpilot
How Junior or senior is SFO for CRJ??
I mean how easy or difficult will it be for someone on the CRJ to hold SFO & how soon??
Originally Posted by telejet
You could hold it within a couple months if not right away on the EMB.
I have read that about the EMB, it is pretty nice to have that option.
What abt the CRJ?? Even if it means years on reserve, How soon is it possible to get to SFO.
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Old 10-17-2013, 05:05 PM
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At least a year to get to SFO on the RJ, most junior CRJ FO in SFO was hired May 2012
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Originally Posted by bcpilot
I have read that about the EMB, it is pretty nice to have that option.
What abt the CRJ?? Even if it means years on reserve, How soon is it possible to get to SFO.
Someone has sjs
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Old 10-17-2013, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Moonwolf
Someone has sjs
I agree with you, to an extent...

But sometimes it is not only abt the SJS, it's about planning your life. No one can stay on the EMB forever, we all will need to move on to the jet for better pay in year # 2 and beyond. That's why it is imp to know how long will it take to get SFO, is it something attainable after the 1 yr seat lock is up, or once my seat lock is up, I will have to make a choice of either commute to another base or take less pay & stay on the Emb.

People say that it better to avoid the commute as much as possible.

Oh BTW, are the jets in SFO really shiny......
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Old 10-17-2013, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Moonwolf
Someone has sjs
I agree with you, to an extent...

But sometimes it is not only abt the SJS, it's about planning your life. No one can stay on the EMB forever, we all will need to move on to the jet for better pay in year # 2 and beyond. That's why it is imp to know how long will it take to get SFO, is it something attainable after the 1 yr seat lock is up, or once my seat lock is up, I will have to make a choice of either commute to another base or take less pay & stay on the Emb.

People say that it better to avoid the commute as much as possible.

Oh BTW, are the jets in SFO really shiny......
The thing is you'd probably make more money as a line holder in the Bro the reserve guarantee in the Jet
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Old 10-17-2013, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bcpilot
or take less pay & stay on the Emb.
I actually could have made more money 2nd year on the EMB than on the CRJ. When I transitioned I was bidding 25% in base on the brasilia holding just about as much credit as I felt like working. I went straight to reserve on the RJ with a 75 hour guarantee. A 95 hour line on the brasilia with 300 hours per diem on 2nd year pay is quite a bit more than reserve guarantee on the RJ with ~100 hours per diem.

If you live in SFO and choose to start out on the RJ you're going to waste at least a year of your life commuting to reserve. Then you'll get the transfer to SFO and still be on reserve making less money than the Brasilia pilot who is junior to you that parks next to you in the parking lot.

I'm not sure what the reasoning is but there are a TON of people who seem to not understand that. I loved the Brasilia and loved not being on reserve. The only reason I transitioned was because I live in an RJ only base.
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Originally Posted by Jet87
The thing is you'd probably make more money as a line holder in the Bro the reserve guarantee in the Jet
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I actually could have made more money 2nd year on the EMB than on the CRJ.
Thanks for the informative responses......

What's a typical day for a Emb FO in SFO?? How does the newhire schedule look like??
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