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06-04-2013, 10:40 AM
#2241
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Joined APC: Nov 2012
Posts: 611
[QUOTE do most turboprop jobs not lead to flying RJs, .[/QUOTE]
What? If you can fly a Bro, Saab, Dash 8 etc, you will have no problem handling an RJ, or even a 737 for that matter.
The Saab 2000 and Q400 can easily truck along at 280 kts IAS at 10,000'
Not sure about the brasilier but I am under the impression that its pretty quick for a prop too.
I know lots of people that went straight from a Beech 1900 to the right seat of a 737 & 757, for CAL and MD80 for Allegiant.
121 turbine is the key here. I don't even think the PIC time is as important as it used to be considering the number of F.O.'s heading to Spirit and Virgin America lately.
What? If you can fly a Bro, Saab, Dash 8 etc, you will have no problem handling an RJ, or even a 737 for that matter.
The Saab 2000 and Q400 can easily truck along at 280 kts IAS at 10,000'
Not sure about the brasilier but I am under the impression that its pretty quick for a prop too.
I know lots of people that went straight from a Beech 1900 to the right seat of a 737 & 757, for CAL and MD80 for Allegiant.
121 turbine is the key here. I don't even think the PIC time is as important as it used to be considering the number of F.O.'s heading to Spirit and Virgin America lately.
06-04-2013, 10:43 AM
#2242
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Joined APC: Nov 2012
Posts: 611
Another vote for the Brasilia here... I was fortunate enough to get an offer for class on either the Brasilia or CRJ. I requested first available, which turned out to be the Brasilia. Having previously flown King Airs, I was actually pretty stoked to be back in a t-prop again. I knew it could very well be the last time in my career to be in a prop, particularly an old school beast like the 120. I came to SkyWest with my ATP, a PIC jet type (and TPIC). I certainly didn't feel above flying it, and in fact a good portion of my new hire class were more experienced than me!
I spent just under a year on it, all in the west coast system. I had an absolute blast! Everything is a little more relaxed than the CRJ, and even the SOPs are (or at least were at that time) more lenient as far as when to be stabilized, etc.
I also made considerable more money that first year compared to what I would've seen on the CRJ. I spent only a few weeks on reserve before getting a line... So not only did I make more money, I had quite a bit more time off and control over my schedule.
A year later I went over to the CRJ, and went straight to a lineholder. As everybody has said, the CRJ flying is definitely not as enjoyable. But it does pay more and is a WAY easier schedule (particularly the 700/900 trips). It really is like a different airline on the CRJ.
Maybe in another year or two I'll be fortunate enough to upgrade to the Bro again, we'll see. I certainly wouldn't mind it, but I'm not sure I want to commute to FAT.
I spent just under a year on it, all in the west coast system. I had an absolute blast! Everything is a little more relaxed than the CRJ, and even the SOPs are (or at least were at that time) more lenient as far as when to be stabilized, etc.
I also made considerable more money that first year compared to what I would've seen on the CRJ. I spent only a few weeks on reserve before getting a line... So not only did I make more money, I had quite a bit more time off and control over my schedule.
A year later I went over to the CRJ, and went straight to a lineholder. As everybody has said, the CRJ flying is definitely not as enjoyable. But it does pay more and is a WAY easier schedule (particularly the 700/900 trips). It really is like a different airline on the CRJ.
Maybe in another year or two I'll be fortunate enough to upgrade to the Bro again, we'll see. I certainly wouldn't mind it, but I'm not sure I want to commute to FAT.
Excellent advice for a new hire, although someone with SJS would call you insane for making such comments!
06-04-2013, 10:50 AM
#2243
Banned
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: MD-88
Posts: 104
As long as everyone is pointing out the career prospects of others, take a chance to read the above gentleman's response. It's articulate, weighted and professional, and offers advice without pontificating. Those who snap to judge one unhappy person are those that take the same approach to everything. This guy will probably outperform all of you.
On a lighter note, I sincerely hope you guys won't be storming into Cameille (or whoever)'s office to shred every application that has IASCO, A&P and ERAU credentials on it, because mine won't be in the stack. You'll just succeed in ruining some young kid's dreams.
On a lighter note, I sincerely hope you guys won't be storming into Cameille (or whoever)'s office to shred every application that has IASCO, A&P and ERAU credentials on it, because mine won't be in the stack. You'll just succeed in ruining some young kid's dreams.
They may not agree with what you are saying but you are entitled to your opinion. Don't let them bully you with threats of ripping up your application or bad mouthing you to HR. Keep building your hours and don't just apply to the regionals. I've flown on the -200 with civilian guys who never set foot in a CRJ.
06-04-2013, 11:11 AM
#2244
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Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: B767
Posts: 1,901
Dude, I wouldn't lose any sleep over this. These guys aren't going into HR to rip up resumes. Only a bunch of nerds who still live at home and take their little regional way too seriously would do something like that.
They may not agree with what you are saying but you are entitled to your opinion. Don't let them bully you with threats of ripping up your application or bad mouthing you to HR. Keep building your hours and don't just apply to the regionals. I've flown on the -200 with civilian guys who never set foot in a CRJ.
They may not agree with what you are saying but you are entitled to your opinion. Don't let them bully you with threats of ripping up your application or bad mouthing you to HR. Keep building your hours and don't just apply to the regionals. I've flown on the -200 with civilian guys who never set foot in a CRJ.
Trust me, most of us know it's just a regional, and a place to get our time and move on. I like it here more than I thought I ever would, but I sure will be glad when it's my turn to continue on to the next segment of my career.
06-04-2013, 12:16 PM
#2245
Rollin'
Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: AA Airbus
Posts: 829
In other words, SkyWest won't open a domicile unless the flying is guaranteed for a long period of time and there’s so much flying that flowing crews becomes cost prohibitive. In this case I think it's a glitch, if not I'd expect crews for other domiciles to flow in and out of CLT to cover the flying.
Last edited by MatchPoint; 06-04-2013 at 12:43 PM.
06-04-2013, 12:34 PM
#2246
Rollin'
Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: AA Airbus
Posts: 829
That's cool. We spend a lot of time talking about what will prevent people from getting jobs here and a much smaller amount of time helping people get jobs and spreading encouragement.
Yes, Skywest is/was/whatever my first choice. No, I don't care. For the past two years they've either not been hiring or upped the mins as I reached them. I have no reason to put all my eggs in one basket and assume that I can get a job anywhere, no matter my attitude or accomplishments at a decent turbine gig with all the prior 121 guys walking around on the streets. I've heard those in charge of hiring at Skywest say that exactly about people with no turbine or 121 time. Honestly, now that it requires ATP mins, is it worth flying something like a Brasilia?
Yes, Skywest is/was/whatever my first choice. No, I don't care. For the past two years they've either not been hiring or upped the mins as I reached them. I have no reason to put all my eggs in one basket and assume that I can get a job anywhere, no matter my attitude or accomplishments at a decent turbine gig with all the prior 121 guys walking around on the streets. I've heard those in charge of hiring at Skywest say that exactly about people with no turbine or 121 time. Honestly, now that it requires ATP mins, is it worth flying something like a Brasilia?
Your attitude needs to be checked or you should find a different line of work. I hope for your safe you aren’t as you seem, otherwise I’d prefer you find employment elsewhere.
Last edited by MatchPoint; 06-04-2013 at 12:55 PM.
06-04-2013, 01:03 PM
#2247
Rollin'
Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: AA Airbus
Posts: 829
Dude, I wouldn't lose any sleep over this. These guys aren't going into HR to rip up resumes. Only a bunch of nerds who still live at home and take their little regional way too seriously would do something like that.
They may not agree with what you are saying but you are entitled to your opinion. Don't let them bully you with threats of ripping up your application or bad mouthing you to HR. Keep building your hours and don't just apply to the regionals. I've flown on the -200 with civilian guys who never set foot in a CRJ.
They may not agree with what you are saying but you are entitled to your opinion. Don't let them bully you with threats of ripping up your application or bad mouthing you to HR. Keep building your hours and don't just apply to the regionals. I've flown on the -200 with civilian guys who never set foot in a CRJ.
06-04-2013, 01:49 PM
#2248
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Joined APC: May 2013
Position: The Parlor
Posts: 1,247
BETTER CHECK YOURSELF BEFORE YOU WRECK YOURSELF 
Sorry all the check your attitude comments are making me giggle.
Fly the BRO and be a man.
Carry on
Sorry all the check your attitude comments are making me giggle.
Fly the BRO and be a man.
Carry on
06-04-2013, 03:06 PM
#2250
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Joined APC: Nov 2009
Position: 757 right seat
Posts: 315
What? If you can fly a Bro, Saab, Dash 8 etc, you will have no problem handling an RJ, or even a 737 for that matter.
The Saab 2000 and Q400 can easily truck along at 280 kts IAS at 10,000'
Not sure about the brasilier but I am under the impression that its pretty quick for a prop too.
I know lots of people that went straight from a Beech 1900 to the right seat of a 737 & 757, for CAL and MD80 for Allegiant.
121 turbine is the key here. I don't even think the PIC time is as important as it used to be considering the number of F.O.'s heading to Spirit and Virgin America lately.[/QUOTE]
Emb-120 cruises at 245-260 TAS. Indicates around 220 at 10k.
The Saab 2000 and Q400 can easily truck along at 280 kts IAS at 10,000'
Not sure about the brasilier but I am under the impression that its pretty quick for a prop too.
I know lots of people that went straight from a Beech 1900 to the right seat of a 737 & 757, for CAL and MD80 for Allegiant.
121 turbine is the key here. I don't even think the PIC time is as important as it used to be considering the number of F.O.'s heading to Spirit and Virgin America lately.[/QUOTE]
Emb-120 cruises at 245-260 TAS. Indicates around 220 at 10k.
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