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Old 12-11-2015, 06:56 PM
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I dunno, does seem odd that the interview team extended an offer (didn't think they were allowed to do that anymore) then it was retracted later.
Are they still doing interviews in SLC, or are they all in DEN now. Also, they must not have a sim in DEN cause there's no sim portion?
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Old 12-11-2015, 07:23 PM
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I heard of a guy that called in sick for an entire month, just because he didn't feel like working. It's guys like that, that should be called in. And perhaps find something new to do?


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Old 12-11-2015, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
I thought the hard "one phone call" rule went buh-bye in 117. As least as far as regulation is concerned, it's basically up to the pilot to determine if any contact by the company (as well as hotel room/transportation/exc.) interrupted or did not allow for an 8 hour sleep opportunity.

This is my understanding. One call was a formal allowance under the old rules, Now it's 100% up to the pilot, so the company should be VERY cautious about even making one call unless they are pushing your show time out at least ten hours from now.
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Old 12-11-2015, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by saxman66
I heard of a guy that called in sick for an entire month, just because he didn't feel like working. It's guys like that, that should be called in. And perhaps find something new to do?


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Yeah, the CPs I've talked said the company lost it's cool over sick calls because of a small percentage of blatant abusers.

There are some folks who have other jobs, or who's lifestyle is more important than this job. They used to be able to get by when they could bid down and get 20 days off but now it's not working for them. Some of them will just keep calling in until they get fired.
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Old 12-11-2015, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by flylowfast
I dunno, does seem odd that the interview team extended an offer (didn't think they were allowed to do that anymore) then it was retracted later.
Are they still doing interviews in SLC, or are they all in DEN now. Also, they must not have a sim in DEN cause there's no sim portion?
I would Summize your friend didn't get a offer to begin with and is trying to save face. Skywest is hiring... A lot. Denver has 175 sims and that's it. I didn't know interviews were done there
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Old 12-11-2015, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
This is my understanding. One call was a formal allowance under the old rules, Now it's 100% up to the pilot, so the company should be VERY cautious about even making one call unless they are pushing your show time out at least ten hours from now.
ALPA's Guide to 117 addresses this issue and refers to the "one phone call" policy as if it is still in effect. In response to multiple questions about 14 CFR 117, the FAA published a clarification of the new rules in the Federal Register. Here is what they wrote concerning the one phone call rule:

"A number of commenters asked whether the required 8-hour sleep opportunity eliminates the one-phone-call rule or places additional restrictions on when the phone call can be made. ALPA asked whether a flightcrew member is required to notify the certificate holder if the certificate holder's phone call prevents the flightcrew member from receiving an 8-hour sleep opportunity.
The FAA has a “one phone call” policy that “generally allows a certificate holder to initiate one phone call during [a] crewmember's rest period.” [39] If the crewmember voluntarily chooses to answer this phone call, then the FAA does not view the call as disruptive and breaking the rest period. [40] The sleep-opportunity requirements of § 117.25 do not eliminate this policy. However, the FAA cautions that a flightcrew member may have difficulty getting back to sleep after being woken up by a certificate holder's phone call. In that situation, a flightcrew member may notify the certificate holder, pursuant to § 117.25(f), that his or her sleep opportunity has been interrupted. Thus, a certificate holder runs the risk of interrupting a flightcrew member's sleep opportunity if the certificate holder calls a flightcrew member during the flightcrew member's rest period."

If you go back and read the initial interpretations regarding the one phone call rule, nothing has really changed. The FAA has always left the door open for even one phone call to be considered as an "interruption." The new emphasis on fatigue management and reporting may make it easier for a pilot to report this kind of an interruption so the practical effects might result in more hesitation from companies to call even once.
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Old 12-11-2015, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by flylowfast
I dunno, does seem odd that the interview team extended an offer (didn't think they were allowed to do that anymore) then it was retracted later.
Are they still doing interviews in SLC, or are they all in DEN now. Also, they must not have a sim in DEN cause there's no sim portion?
interviews are done in SLC and DEN, there is no sim or written test anymore however they did have a redbird Jay in denver a friend of mine had to fly back in July, from what I hear some people are being offered jobs on the spot, some have to wait 6 hrs to 2 days for an offer. Yes they are Hiring most people who come through the door, not sure what happened with your "friend" but have never heard of an offer being retracted.
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Old 12-11-2015, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Squallrider
I would Summize your friend didn't get a offer to begin with and is trying to save face. Skywest is hiring... A lot. Denver has 175 sims and that's it. I didn't know interviews were done there
Interviews in Denver are not done at the sim facility. The interview location has a desktop Redbird sim but they haven't been using it for interviews since at least July.

Edit: ejerickson beat me to it.
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Old 12-11-2015, 09:10 PM
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I kind of want to reapply and ask them if they'll come to my house to interview me....
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Old 12-11-2015, 09:16 PM
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A whole whopping 2 reserve CRJ FO lines for ORD January............awesome........

So glad we picked up that extra DTW flying....100 hours here I come (again)
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