Skywest
09-01-2012, 03:52 AM
#1331
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Posts: 283
As a SkyWest employee, I'd have to say that my subjecive opinion is as such:
2005:
Skywest pilots: I'm happy to do what it takes to get the job done. We have better than average work rules and lots of growth so things are pretty good. I wish I had some cool metro stories though
Expressjet pilots: I'm gonna be a Continental Pilot someday
ASA pilots: Whatever, we're not the best, not the worst. This sure beats ERAU flight instructing, I can't wait til my friends back in Daytona/allATPs see me in this uniform
2008
SkyWest: We're not really like any other regional out there. I hope my upgrade is coming soon... they said I'd upgrade in 2 years... Has anybody seen Uncle Jerry lately? Who is this Chip guy?
Expressjet: Expressjet Rocks! I mean the ERJ is basically the space shuttle and screw continental, I'd wouldn't take a job from them even if they begged me.
ASA: (Same as 2005) and btw, who are these guys from Salt Lake who think they don't work for a regional?
Present Day
SkyWest: This airline just another regional now... but its still better than your regional
Expressjet: I'm kinda embarassed we were almost insolvent there a while back... we'll just pretend that didn't happen. Secretly I know I'm better than other pilots, but these ASA guys are okay.... except maybe those senior guys
ASA: Whatever, just give me my 1000 and let me leave already
2005:
Skywest pilots: I'm happy to do what it takes to get the job done. We have better than average work rules and lots of growth so things are pretty good. I wish I had some cool metro stories though
Expressjet pilots: I'm gonna be a Continental Pilot someday
ASA pilots: Whatever, we're not the best, not the worst. This sure beats ERAU flight instructing, I can't wait til my friends back in Daytona/allATPs see me in this uniform
2008
SkyWest: We're not really like any other regional out there. I hope my upgrade is coming soon... they said I'd upgrade in 2 years... Has anybody seen Uncle Jerry lately? Who is this Chip guy?
Expressjet: Expressjet Rocks! I mean the ERJ is basically the space shuttle and screw continental, I'd wouldn't take a job from them even if they begged me.
ASA: (Same as 2005) and btw, who are these guys from Salt Lake who think they don't work for a regional?
Present Day
SkyWest: This airline just another regional now... but its still better than your regional
Expressjet: I'm kinda embarassed we were almost insolvent there a while back... we'll just pretend that didn't happen. Secretly I know I'm better than other pilots, but these ASA guys are okay.... except maybe those senior guys
ASA: Whatever, just give me my 1000 and let me leave already
09-01-2012, 04:09 AM
#1332
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2006
Position: WB Bunkie
Posts: 1,246
Dumb post. I work at Expressjet and you couldn't be any more wrong. I've personally met numerous people from all three groups and after getting to know them I can tell you we're all pretty similar. Looks like you've gotten wrapped up in the vocal minorities on web forums.
09-01-2012, 04:19 AM
#1333
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Posts: 283
Got it. Sorry for jumping to conclusions broseph. I fly with so many guys who spew the most random crap about groups they know nothing about other than what they read on the Internet, just ticks me off that's all. We're all big one happy dysfunctional family as far as I see it!
09-01-2012, 05:48 AM
#1334
Prime Minister/Moderator
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 40,057
The point of the new federal law is no stapling, ever again. So nobody is going to get end up like TWA...entire labor group stapled then furloughed
Even though the law requires fair and equitable, the devil is in the details and one man's fair may not be another man's equitable. Any group undergoing a merger SLI will need some leaders with their stuff together, for sure. But in a merger-SLI union or non-union status is no longer relevant (unlike AA/TWA)...each group gets a seat at the table and a vote.
That's the whole point of the law...after the AA/TWA merger, alpa refused to represent the TWA group leaving them unionless and at the mercy of APA.
NMB will have to give SKW pilots a seat at the table...whether that would have anything to do with SAPA I don't know, but for merger-SLI a certified union is not required. I imagine with no union, SKW pilots would get to vote to select people to represent them in that scenario...and it might end up being MM and company (probably a good thing IMO).
09-01-2012, 08:12 AM
#1335
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: EMB 145 CPT
Posts: 2,934
The point of the new federal law is no stapling, ever again. So nobody is going to get end up like TWA...entire labor group stapled then furloughed
Even though the law requires fair and equitable, the devil is in the details and one man's fair may not be another man's equitable. Any group undergoing a merger SLI will need some leaders with their stuff together, for sure. But in a merger-SLI union or non-union status is no longer relevant (unlike AA/TWA)...each group gets a seat at the table and a vote.
That's the whole point of the law...after the AA/TWA merger, alpa refused to represent the TWA group leaving them unionless and at the mercy of APA.
NMB will have to give SKW pilots a seat at the table...whether that would have anything to do with SAPA I don't know, but for merger-SLI a certified union is not required. I imagine with no union, SKW pilots would get to vote to select people to represent them in that scenario...and it might end up being MM and company (probably a good thing IMO).
09-01-2012, 02:00 PM
#1336
Rollin'
Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: AA Airbus
Posts: 829
The point of the new federal law is no stapling, ever again. So nobody is going to get end up like TWA...entire labor group stapled then furloughed
Even though the law requires fair and equitable, the devil is in the details and one man's fair may not be another man's equitable. Any group undergoing a merger SLI will need some leaders with their stuff together, for sure. But in a merger-SLI union or non-union status is no longer relevant (unlike AA/TWA)...each group gets a seat at the table and a vote.
That's the whole point of the law...after the AA/TWA merger, alpa refused to represent the TWA group leaving them unionless and at the mercy of APA.
NMB will have to give SKW pilots a seat at the table...whether that would have anything to do with SAPA I don't know, but for merger-SLI a certified union is not required. I imagine with no union, SKW pilots would get to vote to select people to represent them in that scenario...and it might end up being MM and company (probably a good thing IMO).
Even though the law requires fair and equitable, the devil is in the details and one man's fair may not be another man's equitable. Any group undergoing a merger SLI will need some leaders with their stuff together, for sure. But in a merger-SLI union or non-union status is no longer relevant (unlike AA/TWA)...each group gets a seat at the table and a vote.
That's the whole point of the law...after the AA/TWA merger, alpa refused to represent the TWA group leaving them unionless and at the mercy of APA.
NMB will have to give SKW pilots a seat at the table...whether that would have anything to do with SAPA I don't know, but for merger-SLI a certified union is not required. I imagine with no union, SKW pilots would get to vote to select people to represent them in that scenario...and it might end up being MM and company (probably a good thing IMO).
09-01-2012, 02:31 PM
#1337
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Posts: 40
The point of the new federal law is no stapling, ever again. So nobody is going to get end up like TWA...entire labor group stapled then furloughed
Even though the law requires fair and equitable, the devil is in the details and one man's fair may not be another man's equitable. Any group undergoing a merger SLI will need some leaders with their stuff together, for sure. But in a merger-SLI union or non-union status is no longer relevant (unlike AA/TWA)...each group gets a seat at the table and a vote.
That's the whole point of the law...after the AA/TWA merger, alpa refused to represent the TWA group leaving them unionless and at the mercy of APA.
NMB will have to give SKW pilots a seat at the table...whether that would have anything to do with SAPA I don't know, but for merger-SLI a certified union is not required. I imagine with no union, SKW pilots would get to vote to select people to represent them in that scenario...and it might end up being MM and company (probably a good thing IMO).
Even though the law requires fair and equitable, the devil is in the details and one man's fair may not be another man's equitable. Any group undergoing a merger SLI will need some leaders with their stuff together, for sure. But in a merger-SLI union or non-union status is no longer relevant (unlike AA/TWA)...each group gets a seat at the table and a vote.
That's the whole point of the law...after the AA/TWA merger, alpa refused to represent the TWA group leaving them unionless and at the mercy of APA.
NMB will have to give SKW pilots a seat at the table...whether that would have anything to do with SAPA I don't know, but for merger-SLI a certified union is not required. I imagine with no union, SKW pilots would get to vote to select people to represent them in that scenario...and it might end up being MM and company (probably a good thing IMO).
The entire FA group at TWA did get stapled to the bottom.
09-02-2012, 10:36 AM
#1340
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: Reclined
Posts: 2,168
What's with Skywest, f-100's, and Australia.... Same company?
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