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09-29-2015, 11:54 AM
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Sorry to go back to this but I really need some clarification. You are saying that the only reason our reserve rules suck is because people don't like being on call and don't want to work?? AYFSM?? Our reserve rules are anything but basic. Our reserve rules suck because you can be on call at 4:00 in the morning, get a trip assigned starting at 10:00 AM and get extended past 16 hours duty day "because it's legal" You can get flown into another base for 5 days and rot in a hotel because it helps show better utilization numbers. You can get assigned to do ready reserve for 8 hours "just in case" You can get DH out to another base to do an hour and 20 minutes of flying with a 15 hour duty day because we don't know how to properly staff all our bases.
I don't mean to come at you, but this is the problem we have when there is a lot of hiring and people don't sit reserve for very long. And this is the reason that management can keep pushing off the reserve re-write. If we had reserve proffering, everyone's QOL would be so much better but we don't make it a priority. When we have our own pilots spewing the crap that AS and JO throw out, we will never see any gains.
In summary to the original question. Our reserve rules have went downhill because SGU is so afraid that we may pay someone 76 hours and they will only work 72. So SGU spends countless man hours in CS to bleed every minute out of our reserve pilots. It doesn't matter how demoralizing it is, because everyone needs to pay their dues.
I don't mean to come at you, but this is the problem we have when there is a lot of hiring and people don't sit reserve for very long. And this is the reason that management can keep pushing off the reserve re-write. If we had reserve proffering, everyone's QOL would be so much better but we don't make it a priority. When we have our own pilots spewing the crap that AS and JO throw out, we will never see any gains.
In summary to the original question. Our reserve rules have went downhill because SGU is so afraid that we may pay someone 76 hours and they will only work 72. So SGU spends countless man hours in CS to bleed every minute out of our reserve pilots. It doesn't matter how demoralizing it is, because everyone needs to pay their dues.
But yes I agree with you being on call is a huge hit on qol. Hence why I won't do corporate flying. But really there is no need to act like reserve at Skywest is THE WORST THING EVER. Cause it's not man.
There are definitely a few things they could change to make it better. Like call in senority order instead of jr to senior and give the senior guys the option of picking it up until everyone below him is used. That would be cool for if you are trying to break guarantee.
And proffering as you mentioned. Also set up required reserves based on something. That way the number doesn't change willy nilly. So that line holders can drop and trade more reliably.
How it is right now isn't horrible but yes it could be better for the pilots.
09-29-2015, 12:04 PM
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I'm assuming some of those 40 will be shifted towards replacing some of the 200s under the Delta and American contracts, but that's just speculation on my part.
09-29-2015, 12:06 PM
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Hello gents,
Does anyone know if the full motion flight sim hours of the type rating course at Skywest can be used toward the ATP requirements (multi-engine hours) ? or do they want you to have those requirements before you start class ?
I know that from the present ATP-CPT course there are 6 full motion flight sim hour you can log, out of 25h of simulator towards the 50h requirement, just wondering if i could use more from the actual type rating course up to the max 25h motion sim.
Thanks in Advance
Does anyone know if the full motion flight sim hours of the type rating course at Skywest can be used toward the ATP requirements (multi-engine hours) ? or do they want you to have those requirements before you start class ?
I know that from the present ATP-CPT course there are 6 full motion flight sim hour you can log, out of 25h of simulator towards the 50h requirement, just wondering if i could use more from the actual type rating course up to the max 25h motion sim.
Thanks in Advance
09-29-2015, 12:20 PM
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Hello gents,
Does anyone know if the full motion flight sim hours of the type rating course at Skywest can be used toward the ATP requirements (multi-engine hours) ? or do they want you to have those requirements before you start class ?
I know that from the present ATP-CPT course there are 6 full motion flight sim hour you can log, out of 25h of simulator towards the 50h requirement, just wondering if i could use more from the actual type rating course up to the max 25h motion sim.
Thanks in Advance
Does anyone know if the full motion flight sim hours of the type rating course at Skywest can be used toward the ATP requirements (multi-engine hours) ? or do they want you to have those requirements before you start class ?
I know that from the present ATP-CPT course there are 6 full motion flight sim hour you can log, out of 25h of simulator towards the 50h requirement, just wondering if i could use more from the actual type rating course up to the max 25h motion sim.
Thanks in Advance
09-29-2015, 12:26 PM
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The new AD on the 700 is destroying their life expectancy. It cost more to do the inspection than the plane is worth.
09-29-2015, 12:30 PM
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Ok well first off I don't believe they can extend rap + 16 unless that was recently changed. And reserve is reserve man. If they put you up in a hotel in another base to be on reserve there they can do that. You are a back up pilot. Also I'm pretty sure the longest they can put you on ready is 4 hrs. It might have been 6? I remember guys in my crash pad working for transtates that had to do 12 hr ready reserve shifts. And they did it back to back days.
But yes I agree with you being on call is a huge hit on qol. Hence why I won't do corporate flying. But really there is no need to act like reserve at Skywest is THE WORST THING EVER. Cause it's not man.
There are definitely a few things they could change to make it better. Like call in senority order instead of jr to senior and give the senior guys the option of picking it up until everyone below him is used. That would be cool for if you are trying to break guarantee.
And proffering as you mentioned. Also set up required reserves based on something. That way the number doesn't change willy nilly. So that line holders can drop and trade more reliably.
How it is right now isn't horrible but yes it could be better for the pilots.
But yes I agree with you being on call is a huge hit on qol. Hence why I won't do corporate flying. But really there is no need to act like reserve at Skywest is THE WORST THING EVER. Cause it's not man.
There are definitely a few things they could change to make it better. Like call in senority order instead of jr to senior and give the senior guys the option of picking it up until everyone below him is used. That would be cool for if you are trying to break guarantee.
And proffering as you mentioned. Also set up required reserves based on something. That way the number doesn't change willy nilly. So that line holders can drop and trade more reliably.
How it is right now isn't horrible but yes it could be better for the pilots.
09-29-2015, 12:31 PM
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Thanks for the reply, good news ! 
Some other airlines are more complicated about it... very happy to hear that.
Some other airlines are more complicated about it... very happy to hear that.
09-29-2015, 12:56 PM
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Posts: 613
Ok well first off I don't believe they can extend rap + 16 unless that was recently changed. And reserve is reserve man. If they put you up in a hotel in another base to be on reserve there they can do that. You are a back up pilot. Also I'm pretty sure the longest they can put you on ready is 4 hrs. It might have been 6? I remember guys in my crash pad working for transtates that had to do 12 hr ready reserve shifts. And they did it back to back days.
I agree with you that the company should be able to have you sit reserve in other domiciles, but why would you not do something as simple as making a OBR yes/no like they do for call first? If you have to sit reserve and you are getting a hotel or at a crash pad, would you not volunteer to sit OBR? Again, one simple thing that would make QOL for reserves better, but nothing will ever happen with it. And in the reserve guide it specifically says that 8 hours is the limit for RR, but CS has been trying to assign more than 8 hours. Probably hoping that the FNG's won't know the rules and do it.
But yes I agree with you being on call is a huge hit on qol. Hence why I won't do corporate flying. But really there is no need to act like reserve at Skywest is THE WORST THING EVER. Cause it's not man.
There are definitely a few things they could change to make it better. Like call in senority order instead of jr to senior and give the senior guys the option of picking it up until everyone below him is used. That would be cool for if you are trying to break guarantee.
And proffering as you mentioned. Also set up required reserves based on something. That way the number doesn't change willy nilly. So that line holders can drop and trade more reliably.
How it is right now isn't horrible but yes it could be better for the pilots.
There are definitely a few things they could change to make it better. Like call in senority order instead of jr to senior and give the senior guys the option of picking it up until everyone below him is used. That would be cool for if you are trying to break guarantee.
And proffering as you mentioned. Also set up required reserves based on something. That way the number doesn't change willy nilly. So that line holders can drop and trade more reliably.
How it is right now isn't horrible but yes it could be better for the pilots.
09-29-2015, 03:23 PM
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09-29-2015, 05:49 PM
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