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Old 09-01-2015, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by prior121
12 first class seats, two full sized lavs, two full sized galleys, hot meals, wifi. Yep, an RJ....................
Call it what you want. It's RJ pay, it's an RJ.

Does it take any more or less effort to fly than a CRJ200 or a 737? no.

All of us are capable of flying any plane. The notion that just because we're regional scum we're unworthy to fly a A320/737 is mind boggling. We're just a C scale and we've been beat and worn down to think we're not "mainline material".

We fly the same people, at the same speeds and same altitudes. The people don't even know we're outsourced.


We're one and the same. Stop thinking we as regional pilots are lesser pilots because our paycheck doesn't match the paint on the plane. We're just playing the game management and pilot groups before us laid out for us. Let's change it when we are in position and able.
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Old 09-01-2015, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by JB22
well, maybe the 175 won't get me to the majors as quick as I said, but I believe it helps. The lady I spoke with on the phone said that some RJs are going off line this year and many next year. So I figure, go to the 175 and take my chances. I've done my homework and with majors killing off the rj, why bother with it. Waste of time. Keeping your head in the sand won't help.
Looking forward to the Oct class.
Someday, you will look back on this post and realize how ridiculous you sounded.
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Old 09-01-2015, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by durrrr
Just a tip. You haven't even started class yet, so please don't offer advice when you are regurgitating others opinions.

If you have been reading others post your seniority number is system wide. So the class of 9/3 for the ERJ will be able to bid captain on the CRJ before you since you don't start until late October.

Next stop justifying your opinion of choosing the CRJ because you were not able to get in an ERJ class. Believe me no gives a crap about equipment, everyone is stuck in the regionals for the long haul. Equipment doesn't matter, this has been stated for ages.
The "opinion" I gave came from a SkyWest senior Capt that hired me at the interview. I also had a choice of equipment and start date. I made MY choice based on the logic of the advice and where it originated.

Feel free to keep on hating... I'm sure with that attitude you'll be enjoying the regionals for many years to come...
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Old 09-01-2015, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by AFflyer
The "opinion" I gave came from a SkyWest senior Capt that hired me at the interview. I also had a choice of equipment and start date. I made MY choice based on the logic of the advice and where it originated.

Feel free to keep on hating... I'm sure with that attitude you'll be enjoying the regionals for many years to come...
A senior captain eh?? ROFL sounds like he knows his stuff. Not hating but thanks for the laugh
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Old 09-01-2015, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by AFflyer
The "opinion" I gave came from a SkyWest senior Capt that hired me at the interview. I also had a choice of equipment and start date. I made MY choice based on the logic of the advice and where it originated.

Feel free to keep on hating... I'm sure with that attitude you'll be enjoying the regionals for many years to come...
The advice he was giving was about how your life would be seniority wise in the right seat and had nothing to do with upgrade. As stated before - all upgrades are based on company wide seniority. Period.

I'll expand a little on right seat seniority. The only thing that really matters month to month is your seniority in domicile in your seat. The lower on the list in domicile the worse your life is. Someone bidding in the top 10-20% gets a good schedule, they get to fly the better higher paying trips, the days off they want, maybe some vacation in the summer if done with the master bid. While those in the bottom 30-40% get all the crap, the reserve, work weekends with early shows and late releases, and can forget about ever getting vacation over a holiday or in the summer.

Now to point out the differences in the 175 and CRJ -- We have about 300 FOs on the 175 and nearly 1500 and the CRJ. On the 175 about 30 have the seniority to upgrade but haven't. Probably 200 or so have only been with the company for less than 18 months. On the CRJ 500 or so FOs have the seniority to upgrade but have chose not to. Another 500-800 will be able to before those 200 on the 175 with less than 18 months. Simply put a great majority of the upgrades at this company will come off the CRJ FO list for the next several years. This means the movement on the CRJ FO list should be much faster. Your relative seniority in domicile in that seat should move a lost faster - and get you everything that comes with it. Sure some CRJ FOs will bid the right seat of the 175, but it won't be significant.
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Old 09-01-2015, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by AFflyer
The "opinion" I gave came from a SkyWest senior Capt that hired me at the interview. I also had a choice of equipment and start date. I made MY choice based on the logic of the advice and where it originated.

Feel free to keep on hating... I'm sure with that attitude you'll be enjoying the regionals for many years to come...
No you got it twisted. You will be sitting at a regional for a long time lol.

In five years when everyone else has moved on let me know how the hand flying is going. Obviously you have no clue how seniority works. You will be an awesome gear swinger with your attitude .
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Old 09-01-2015, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Utah
The advice he was giving was about how your life would be seniority wise in the right seat and had nothing to do with upgrade. As stated before - all upgrades are based on company wide seniority. Period.

I'll expand a little on right seat seniority. The only thing that really matters month to month is your seniority in domicile in your seat. The lower on the list in domicile the worse your life is. Someone bidding in the top 10-20% gets a good schedule, they get to fly the better higher paying trips, the days off they want, maybe some vacation in the summer if done with the master bid. While those in the bottom 30-40% get all the crap, the reserve, work weekends with early shows and late releases, and can forget about ever getting vacation over a holiday or in the summer.

Now to point out the differences in the 175 and CRJ -- We have about 300 FOs on the 175 and nearly 1500 and the CRJ. On the 175 about 30 have the seniority to upgrade but haven't. Probably 200 or so have only been with the company for less than 18 months. On the CRJ 500 or so FOs have the seniority to upgrade but have chose not to. Another 500-800 will be able to before those 200 on the 175 with less than 18 months. Simply put a great majority of the upgrades at this company will come off the CRJ FO list for the next several years. This means the movement on the CRJ FO list should be much faster. Your relative seniority in domicile in that seat should move a lost faster - and get you everything that comes with it. Sure some CRJ FOs will bid the right seat of the 175, but it won't be significant.
Good write up. Thanks for taking the time...
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Old 09-01-2015, 11:40 AM
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Think what he is getting at is the majors like a fresh training event.. Seems a lot of the freshly minted E175 guys are off to the majors..
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Old 09-01-2015, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by AFflyer
The "opinion" I gave came from a SkyWest senior Capt that hired me at the interview. I also had a choice of equipment and start date. I made MY choice based on the logic of the advice and where it originated.

Feel free to keep on hating... I'm sure with that attitude you'll be enjoying the regionals for many years to come...
I think you misunderstood what the CA was telling you. Listen to Utah, his post is absolutely accurate.

For the last time, upgrade has nothing to do with the airframe you're on. Nothing. It is purely controlled by your company wide seniority number.

That said, I think we'll see a lot more movement on the CRJ. Your seniority in domicile (a whole different number than your company wide seniority number) should, in certain domiciles, improve faster on the CRJ. You will not upgrade quicker on the CRJ, but you have a better chance of achieving a better QOL faster. Again, this only applies to certain bases. As an example, my seniority number company wide has decreased by 350 since I was hired. But my domicile seniority has gotten worse over the past 5 months as guys more senior to me transfer in.

Listen to what we're telling you. It's the truth, I promise you.
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Old 09-01-2015, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by M20EPilot
You might want to check your pay stub. Perhaps there has been some misunderstanding or glitch?
I was thinking the same thing. We don't have first class, wifi or hot meals, and I'm feeling alright about it.
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