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Old 08-25-2015, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by WaterRooster
Just went through the CTP and I am ERJ. So unless they changed it in the last 2 weeks, no.
I still have to do the CTP as well. Did you ask for the ERJ or did they just give it to you?
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Old 08-25-2015, 09:10 AM
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I'm not real good at math but, wouldn't a 2.5 year upgrade require skywest hiring 60 a month for 2.5 years. What's the average class size been for the last 2 years?
I just flew with a captain involved in training/ management. The last two months have been 80-90 new hires a month spread over both the crj and erj. Management wants 100 a month but cannot afford less than 40 a month to cover attrition. Skywest is trying to expand on the ERJ side but they don't want to commit to a large number of airframes until they have the pilots for the next few years. He says they are planning on hiring indefinitely and training indefinitely.

That was other great thing he was telling me about management thinks the pilot shortage is only going to last two maybe three years. And then it will be easy to get pilots again.
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Old 08-25-2015, 09:23 AM
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I just flew with a captain involved in training/ management. The last two months have been 80-90 new hires a month spread over both the crj and erj. Management wants 100 a month but cannot afford less than 40 a month to cover attrition. Skywest is trying to expand on the ERJ side but they don't want to commit to a large number of airframes until they have the pilots for the next few years. He says they are planning on hiring indefinitely and training indefinitely.

That was other great thing he was telling me about management thinks the pilot shortage is only going to last two maybe three years. And then it will be easy to get pilots again.
KB told me at Scott Martins Memorial Service, that "There is no pilot shortage"
Per my contact at ALPA national age 67 is in the immediate future, which will only kick the can down the road for a couple of more years.
Remember the pilot shortage was indirectly engineered by the very people who have the solution to the problem at their disposal.
Money, lots of it.
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Old 08-25-2015, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by IFLYPLANEZBRO
That was other great thing he was telling me about management thinks the pilot shortage is only going to last two maybe three years. And then it will be easy to get pilots again.
If management truly thinks this, the end is nearer than I thought.
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Old 08-25-2015, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by IFLYPLANEZBRO

That was other great thing he was telling me about management thinks the pilot shortage is only going to last two maybe three years. And then it will be easy to get pilots again.
United/DAL/AA will hire the pilots they want from a regional, then shut it down and set the remaining pilots free to apply to the remaining regionals. This process will repeat until the regionals are gone. If Republic goes into BK, they will be the first example, reference their Executive stock sell offs.
The reason SKYW is hiring at these rates is to be able to pick up the slack when Republic chains the doors shut, but don't fret, SKYW will let you guys interview for F/O positions at the bottom of the list.
This is a carnivorous industry, strap in tight, rides are gonna deteriorate.
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Old 08-25-2015, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by IFLYPLANEZBRO
That was other great thing he was telling me about management thinks the pilot shortage is only going to last two maybe three years. And then it will be easy to get pilots again.
Same thing was essentially said by a SAPA rep on the pay negotiation committee. The company wouldn't commit to the PPS program longer than 3 years because they think it won't be needed after that.

My question is coming from a company who has failed to adapt to 117 changes and the dwindling supply of pilots, as well as increased attrition from its own ranks, does this surprise anyone??
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Old 08-25-2015, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by TravisJohn
I still have to do the CTP as well. Did you ask for the ERJ or did they just give it to you?
They asked what I wanted to fly. They are pushing the CRJ harder lately though as I think they are getting back logged on the ERJ side.
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Old 08-25-2015, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by WaterRooster
They asked what I wanted to fly. They are pushing the CRJ harder lately though as I think they are getting back logged on the ERJ side.
Oh ok. I was given the CRJ, but strongly prefer the ERJ for many reasons. It would be nice if i could switch. How was the CTP course? Did you do it in Atlanta or Houston
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KB told me at Scott Martins Memorial Service, that "There is no pilot shortage"
Per my contact at ALPA national age 67 is in the immediate future, which will only kick the can down the road for a couple of more years.
Remember the pilot shortage was indirectly engineered by the very people who have the solution to the problem at their disposal.
Money, lots of it.
Directly from the people at CAMI is the 67 rule will not happen unless they can prove its medically beneficial. The raised it 5 years in 2007 for the majors to hire and train more people yet not one person was even hired. They are not happy about that.
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Originally Posted by TravisJohn
Oh ok. I was given the CRJ, but strongly prefer the ERJ for many reasons. It would be nice if i could switch. How was the CTP course? Did you do it in Atlanta or Houston
What are your many reasons for wanting the ERJ?
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