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06-01-2015, 02:18 AM

#10551

TheFly

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Check Complete

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

What flavor is today's koolaid?

Gullible grape?

It was a good video...can't argue with that.

06-01-2015, 06:08 AM

#10552

TheFly

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Check Complete

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

What flavor is today's koolaid?

Gullible grape?

Sounds more like bitter blue.

06-01-2015, 07:56 AM

#10553

rickair7777

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Originally Posted by Squallrider

Normal reserve is 4:00am-1600. Pm reserve is 0900-2100. Two hour call out. Long call reserve is 12 hour call out and usually used first if able. 3 or 4 days can be turned to short call (2 hours) ready reserve is usually assigned after or before a trip to my knowledge. Same system wide.

Well the latest scam is 0700-1900...technically am but now they'll apply the 18 hour extension and expect you to cover anything, am or pm.

06-01-2015, 07:59 AM

#10554

rickair7777

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheFly

It was a good video...can't argue with that.

Yeah, I'll give them that. The fictional scenario was a real attention-getter, because it was entirely plausible and could have been real ugly...best outcome would have been waterloo, ie flame out on the taxi in.

06-01-2015, 08:36 AM

#10555

Squallrider

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Originally Posted by rickair7777

Well the latest scam is 0700-1900...technically am but now they'll apply the 18 hour extension and expect you to cover anything, am or pm.

Did not know that haha who is covering early departures?

06-01-2015, 08:39 AM

#10556

M20EPilot

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rickair7777

That was a great video. Don't be the FO that sits there fat dumb and happy in the face of a confident CA: read the MEL, read the NOTAMs, read the MX history in the can. We all know the CA in that video; quite obviously an outstanding guy.

How hard would it be to say 'whoa' to him "hey can I take a look at that release amendment?", "let me check the notams again...".

06-01-2015, 09:51 AM

#10557

Check Complete

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Quote:

Originally Posted by M20EPilot

The video was well done, but simply the company can't fix the issue. The FAA is all over us for these type of issues and they are expecting the pilot group to be the quality control for something that should be done from maintenance.

Did you see how many phone calls were involved with a simple problem?

It's why they fired, I mean retired, the last VP of maintenance and put DX under MT directly.

Can you imagine if every pilot said I'm not using my cellphone for a day to fix what the company can't?

06-01-2015, 09:58 AM

#10558

NVUS

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Originally Posted by Check Complete

Can you imagine if every pilot said I'm not using my cellphone for a day to fix what the company can't?

Oh so that's the reason Flight Control no longer has to go through the VP of Flight Ops and can just talk directly to the Pres? Your logic is flawed.

06-01-2015, 10:22 AM

#10559

Check Complete

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Originally Posted by NVUS

Oh so that's the reason Flight Control no longer has to go through the VP of Flight Ops and can just talk directly to the Pres? Your logic is flawed.

No, my point is that if the pilot group decided to go and use a land line what the delays would add up too?

Management, that's what is flawed.

Sounds like your one of them? Yes?