Contract Signers Should be ashamed
10-03-2024, 10:08 AM
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I don't remember what I was getting when I left SkyWest, but I know it wasn't 12%.
10-03-2024, 12:23 PM
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it's likely he or she will get hired where there is no requirement to sign a contract and move on to a major carrier 2, 3 or even 4 years ahead of you and enjoy his or her career far more making much more quicker than you who is now ball chained to a regional. Sounds like they understand business better and don't feel the need to limit substantially their options. For the win! Fact.
10-03-2024, 06:26 PM
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10 years ago they fired the manager in charge of pilot hiring. A bunch of recruiters quit also. The reason why - management told them to hire everyone that showed up to the interview and they refused. The recruiters were actually saying no to certain pilots and upper management overruled them. They figured they'd just let the training department work it out. That's about the same time certain newhires were getting well over 100 hours of IOE.
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10-04-2024, 05:12 AM
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it's likely he or she will get hired where there is no requirement to sign a contract and move on to a major carrier 2, 3 or even 4 years ahead of you and enjoy his or her career far more making much more quicker than you who is now ball chained to a regional. Sounds like they understand business better and don't feel the need to limit substantially their options. For the win! Fact.
10-04-2024, 05:21 AM
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10-04-2024, 05:44 AM
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So. Back to the title of this thread. Should we add all the DL/UA/AA Captains that paid for there training at the like s of Comair/XJet back in the 90’s. Or even all the SWA pilots that paid for their 737 type rating??? Not sure where the same stops? Because you fly for a “major” its forgiven?
OK does this Agreement suck. Ya.. was it not seen coming… no… But the reality is. You’re making $50 more a hour then most people did here as a NH. So if you can get hired by a Major beside DL/UA then save up and pay the $80k back…Long run I'm sure it will work out for you.. My advice to anyone (mostly single under 30)that is set on flying for a Major. Go to a crapy Regional. It will make you want out as fast as you can get out..
OK does this Agreement suck. Ya.. was it not seen coming… no… But the reality is. You’re making $50 more a hour then most people did here as a NH. So if you can get hired by a Major beside DL/UA then save up and pay the $80k back…Long run I'm sure it will work out for you.. My advice to anyone (mostly single under 30)that is set on flying for a Major. Go to a crapy Regional. It will make you want out as fast as you can get out..
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10-04-2024, 08:30 AM
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THose of you new FOs that signed the contract should be ashamed. You needed an easy way to get ahead of your peers who were probably more talented, and now you have taken away any leverage the SkyWest pilot group has in the future when it comes to negotiations. Upper managment made it clear they are no longer worried about attrition since these FOs are now locked into a 5 year contract. What a disgrace.
10-04-2024, 08:35 AM
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You would be surprised how many Part 121 pilots still think it is "anyone with a pulse" hiring environment out there for entry level Part 121 jobs. So out of touch.
10-04-2024, 08:41 AM
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That's not how it works. You just roll your old 401k into the new one, or an IRA, your choice.
17-18% DC, no match required, vested immediately.
Yes it is better overall by a very large margin (I was pretty senior when I left). Even if you have to fly a 737 (don't if you don't have to).
Would take too long to explain. I don't fault anyone for staying, I almost did. But that doesn't change the facts.
17-18% DC, no match required, vested immediately.
Yes it is better overall by a very large margin (I was pretty senior when I left). Even if you have to fly a 737 (don't if you don't have to).
Would take too long to explain. I don't fault anyone for staying, I almost did. But that doesn't change the facts.
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