Class date without signing the contract?
07-29-2024, 01:13 PM
#31
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I don't get your point, you just said all those things require no payback?
Either it's in the contract or it's not, see the confusion above, 80K's a lot of money not a 12K type rating, before a new pilot goes signing anything like that it should be looked over by a competent third party.
Either it's in the contract or it's not, see the confusion above, 80K's a lot of money not a 12K type rating, before a new pilot goes signing anything like that it should be looked over by a competent third party.
years ago it was 12k at most airlines. But back then pay was $19hr and you didn’t get laid tell after ioe. And no hotel provided.. Now pay for ATP/CTP. Pay day 1 indoc $90hr, single room hotel… $80k….
07-29-2024, 03:24 PM
#32
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07-31-2024, 08:23 AM
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Quit spouting this "Just happy to be here bullshìt". I've never of an airline not providing a hotel to new hires and very few had training contracts especially ones that were $80k. You sign this contract your part of the problem and I assure you pilots at majors will view you negatively.
07-31-2024, 10:07 AM
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Quit spouting this "Just happy to be here bullshìt". I've never of an airline not providing a hotel to new hires and very few had training contracts especially ones that were $80k. You sign this contract your part of the problem and I assure you pilots at majors will view you negatively.
None of those pay for training types were ever held back from getting a job later on.
07-31-2024, 04:01 PM
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Quit spouting this "Just happy to be here bullshìt". I've never of an airline not providing a hotel to new hires and very few had training contracts especially ones that were $80k. You sign this contract your part of the problem and I assure you pilots at majors will view you negatively.
07-31-2024, 05:16 PM
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07-31-2024, 09:32 PM
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Yeah I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that you're wrong on this. We all got our start somewhere and most of us did it the right way weren't blue falcons. SkyWests decline has been a pretty good convo in the crew room lately.
07-31-2024, 10:42 PM
#38
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but I know plenty of folks who’s kid’s, nephews, friends kids etc are currently working on their ratings and wondering whether OO is the premiere operator it used to be.
regardless, this training contract won’t go away until the demand / supply balance shifts again. things don’t look super bright right now. not doom and gloom but enough hiring slow down for supply to build in excess of demand.
08-01-2024, 12:19 AM
#39
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Care for the good of the individuals and the precedent and relate because I sat in that seat? Totally care. I despise the tactics. I am confident it won't make things culturally better and tells me that management has zero interest in running a good business model that takes care of people. This is aviation though, so lets be real, management doesn't care for the most part. Im telling everyone starting out now to avoid any place with a contract if they have any possible way, life is too crazy for that hanging over someone's head.
08-01-2024, 04:38 AM
#40
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Quit spouting this "Just happy to be here bullshìt". I've never of an airline not providing a hotel to new hires and very few had training contracts especially ones that were $80k. You sign this contract your part of the problem and I assure you pilots at majors will view you negatively.
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