RoostA

5yr commitment or $80000 at 6% ..... seems excessive

TurboTurtle

The language in the contract references "Cadets." I'm wondering if this is similar to that contract that got everyone up in arms but ended up only being for international pilots. Can anyone who received the email verify if they're part of the cadet program?

cornerpocket

[size=0pt]There were no "commitments" (in the form of contracts) to be fulfilled. The employee pool spoke and made it clear...a lot of pilots don't want to work regional schedules on regional equipment for regional compensation. The top 20% may disagree, but that’s to be expected.

My ten cents (my two cents are free): If you’re committed to airlines, go to a wholly owned. Endeavor and Envoy both have flows and they’re both unionized. What little that amounts to is more than what Skywest has to offer. SkyWest's offer is little more than suggestions, implications, and insinuations. The only guarantee is you owe them the costs for training should you leave before your contract is fulfilled.

For those open to the idea, I would suggest 135/cargo unless you're coool with hanging out at a regional for a while.[/size]

rickair7777

For those open to the idea, I would suggest 135/cargo unless you're coool with hanging out at a regional for a while.[size=0pt]For those open to the idea, I would suggest 135/cargo unless you're coool with hanging out at a regional for a while.[/size]


That can work, and I have a couple friends who got on at legacies prior to age 30 that way.

But you have to choose the shop carefully, you'll likely start with props, and the training may be anywhere on a spectrum.

With regionals you can generally just pick any one that's not an obvious dumpster fire based on your preferred location. If you're flexible to move, chase the upgrade.

Ace66

This is essentially the "pay to play" scheme that Comair and a few other scumbags tried in the 1990's. It was understood among pilots not to apply to these airlines in order to get them to drop their training-for-pay policy. In fact, if you did go to those places you were *almost* considered a scab. It takes *all* of us to force the companies not to implement these policies. Prisoner's Dilemma - look it up.

As others have asked, who is independently auditing SkyWest to show that you are in fact going to the front of the line? I enjoying the flying at SkyWest, but I did not like the company. I did not trust them - they are dishonest, conniving, secretive, and don't play by the rules. And if *everyone* signs up for it, then you are right back where you started except now you have an $80k contract.

Unless WN is your final destination, stay away from SkyWest.

cornerpocket

I agree with your statement 100%. But you know how pilots are their own worst enemy. Many will justify it in their own head by asking "What's ONE person going to hurt???" No single drop causes the flood...

And that "5-year" commitment? There's no set timeline in the agreement stating a candidate will flow when specific conditions are met. It could very well be longer than 5 years.

That's not a carrot they're dangling in your face. Just Chip's dick painted to look like a carrot.

Hedley

internet win of the day. Damn that's funny.

121noob

Yeah if you work as a CFI or in a lower end 135/91 job, and it's the only thing available then it makes sense to jump on it or Republic's oppressive contract. It might not be a good long term strategic play but a bad day at a 121 regional is still better than a good day as a CFI or crappy 91/135. From what I can see Republic and maybe SkyWest are the only ones really hiring street FOs right now while everyone else is metering. Republic classes are booked until October.

amcnd

As much a i hate this new “agreement” i see why the company is doing it. No diff then any other industry offering incentives to join there company.. With the amount of applications on file OO is not worried about 10% of the apps people not taking the deal, there are 4000+ others that will.. and the music is kind of slowing down anyway. (Thanks Boeing and Geared engines)I fell will be back to the norm of needing 1000 pic to get on a major again soon…

RippinClapBombs

If this agreement doesn’t get an ALPA drive started idk what will.

Pay to play with the privilege of being pigeon-holed by everyone except WN. Yikes...