Skywest Jumpseat(ers)
06-18-2023, 09:48 PM
#21
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Joined APC: May 2009
Position: Left Seat
Posts: 392
Culture?
its gone. Mandatory upgrades. Old bitter CAs?
I have been left at the gate on an oo 175 by a bitter CA who was mad I left the chosen company before him. I recall burning down gas in IAH to get a guy home to St. Louis in the deuce.
I had a skywest newb in uniform look at me in full widget regalia and ask if I work for United. LoL.
the old culture is dead. The family atmosphere didn’t survive covid, and I would argue it was on life support in 17.
its gone. Mandatory upgrades. Old bitter CAs?
I have been left at the gate on an oo 175 by a bitter CA who was mad I left the chosen company before him. I recall burning down gas in IAH to get a guy home to St. Louis in the deuce.
I had a skywest newb in uniform look at me in full widget regalia and ask if I work for United. LoL.
the old culture is dead. The family atmosphere didn’t survive covid, and I would argue it was on life support in 17.
I would gladly leave you behind again
06-19-2023, 02:04 AM
#22
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Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: FOD
Posts: 538
it happened to me in SFO, ual pilot introduced to the cockpit that he was getting the jumpseat early by the gate agent, so I went up to the gate agent and one of OO came to mee said I listed 1 hour early but the gate agent already gave the jumpseat to the ual. I said the story checks out, but I told the gate agent I want my OO pilot in my jumpseat now, she said I already close the flight, we’ll open it up again, she said couldn’t do it, I said well, we are just going to sit here all day long….. she magically put my OO on my plane jumpseat. The ual dude was ****ed 😡 and said, sorry dude we only have problems with ual side…. He said was going to report it to my company, told him he has the right to do so…. We took off from SFO to SLC and got my OO guy home… it’s been a while and I hadn’t heard anything yet..
so ual side use the dirty trick on vacation pass and early jumpseat awards and ignore the OO..
I always check with gate agents and other OO jumpseaters, been doing the walk every day.
so ual side use the dirty trick on vacation pass and early jumpseat awards and ignore the OO..
I always check with gate agents and other OO jumpseaters, been doing the walk every day.
06-20-2023, 05:47 AM
#24
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Joined APC: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,290
Just a reminder if you listed for the jump and then the gate gives you a seat you still need to check in with the CA. Not only is it the right thing to do but If you don't it leads to questions and confusion when the final numbers come in and it shows ACM in the actual. Now the crew has to call ops who calls the gate and then the crew has to call back to the FAs asking if there's a jump and where they're sitting before correcting the W&B manifest.
06-24-2023, 10:29 PM
#26
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Joined APC: Sep 2017
Posts: 24
I'm not understanding this post.
-Perfectly fine. Perhaps last minute commute option or they just missed their original flight just a few minutes earlier? Ideally, list as early as possible, yes. But we can't prove anything here.
-You have to list to get on,either in the back or via jump, so I don't see how this is possible.
-They can list for the front or back at their discretion. Pros and cons to both, and many people choose one strategically and intentionally. Priority and seniority rules. That's it.
-Who wants to be talked to? I certainly don't. In fact, I intentionally disguise myself as much as possible. It's not a jumpseater's responsibility to ensure other jumps get on board or are cleared appropriately. Hell, anytime I try to go introduce myself to "the jump" it ends up being someone totally NOT who I thought, like a deadheader in the back who then stares at me awkwardly lol
-Perfectly fine. Perhaps last minute commute option or they just missed their original flight just a few minutes earlier? Ideally, list as early as possible, yes. But we can't prove anything here.
-You have to list to get on,either in the back or via jump, so I don't see how this is possible.
-They can list for the front or back at their discretion. Pros and cons to both, and many people choose one strategically and intentionally. Priority and seniority rules. That's it.
-Who wants to be talked to? I certainly don't. In fact, I intentionally disguise myself as much as possible. It's not a jumpseater's responsibility to ensure other jumps get on board or are cleared appropriately. Hell, anytime I try to go introduce myself to "the jump" it ends up being someone totally NOT who I thought, like a deadheader in the back who then stares at me awkwardly lol
06-25-2023, 08:11 AM
#27
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Joined APC: May 2022
Position: Clappin' Rip Bombs
Posts: 437
I'm not understanding this post.
-Perfectly fine. Perhaps last minute commute option or they just missed their original flight just a few minutes earlier? Ideally, list as early as possible, yes. But we can't prove anything here.
-You have to list to get on,either in the back or via jump, so I don't see how this is possible.
-They can list for the front or back at their discretion. Pros and cons to both, and many people choose one strategically and intentionally. Priority and seniority rules. That's it.
-Who wants to be talked to? I certainly don't. In fact, I intentionally disguise myself as much as possible. It's not a jumpseater's responsibility to ensure other jumps get on board or are cleared appropriately. Hell, anytime I try to go introduce myself to "the jump" it ends up being someone totally NOT who I thought, like a deadheader in the back who then stares at me awkwardly lol
-Perfectly fine. Perhaps last minute commute option or they just missed their original flight just a few minutes earlier? Ideally, list as early as possible, yes. But we can't prove anything here.
-You have to list to get on,either in the back or via jump, so I don't see how this is possible.
-They can list for the front or back at their discretion. Pros and cons to both, and many people choose one strategically and intentionally. Priority and seniority rules. That's it.
-Who wants to be talked to? I certainly don't. In fact, I intentionally disguise myself as much as possible. It's not a jumpseater's responsibility to ensure other jumps get on board or are cleared appropriately. Hell, anytime I try to go introduce myself to "the jump" it ends up being someone totally NOT who I thought, like a deadheader in the back who then stares at me awkwardly lol
You summed it all up perfectly.
06-27-2023, 08:34 AM
#29
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 153
Flight 5333, SYR-ORD 6/25. CRJ 200. Thank you Capt.J who made the walk, ran the numbers, and made sure I got on!
06-27-2023, 08:42 AM
#30
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: Seat 0B
Posts: 2,300
This goes both ways. I’ve seen entitled, arrogant, less than tactful, mainly out of ignorance, RJ pilots on the JS. I’ve seen entitled, arrogant, jacka$$ mainline pilots as well.
So, no matter if you’re JS on a RJ or mainline, please realize that you’re a guest in someone else’s flight deck.
So, no matter if you’re JS on a RJ or mainline, please realize that you’re a guest in someone else’s flight deck.
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