Any crj 200 landing technique?
#21
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i personally think the -700 is easier than the -900. to me, the -200 lands like a GA plane
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I think many pilots are taught to way over flare the -700. This leads to difficulties in pitch control and finding the runway, and also means a delay in getting the nose down, which subsequently delays your reverser deployment on a short runway. In reality it only needs a degree or two more flare than the -200. Pull the power at 10-20 feet depending on energy state/trend. I have had less trouble finding the ground, and while I’ll still have some firm landings, I haven’t experienced the ubiquitous crunchers that the 700 likes to surprise you with. I think it’s because at a lower flare angle, the struts are perpendicular with the ground and they do a better job.
The -700 will give you a much better greaser than the -200 if you’re lucky. Especially if you flared a bit too much and end up relaxing some back pressure right before the wheels touch. YMMV
The -700 will give you a much better greaser than the -200 if you’re lucky. Especially if you flared a bit too much and end up relaxing some back pressure right before the wheels touch. YMMV
#23
You fly a classic 900 or the EP/LR/Next gen? 700 lands like the long wing 900. You’ll need to pull the power back a bit sooner. 900 landings are flatter. 700 needs a bit more flare.
So I know the OP is talking the 200. For background, I have a lot of time in the 200 and the 900, not a lot in the 700. Been doing a lot of UA 700 flying and finding I’m hunting for the wheels more so in the 700.... curious if there is a reason for this as far as the aircraft dimensions perhaps? 900 I give a good flare and all is well.... 700 I feel like I’m hunting for the ground.... could just be me and probably is but it’s been consistent that way.... not fun when you’re trying to land on a short runway as is typical with the 700 compared to the 900..
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I like to very very slowly start inching the power back at 100 ft at 50ft I increase the rate a little. At about 10 feet I just hold it and let the speed bleed off. I find the 200 is very easy to land. It will come to you just keep working at it and remember to look way down the runway.
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#25
I think many pilots are taught to way over flare the -700. This leads to difficulties in pitch control and finding the runway, and also means a delay in getting the nose down, which subsequently delays your reverser deployment on a short runway. In reality it only needs a degree or two more flare than the -200. Pull the power at 10-20 feet depending on energy state/trend. I have had less trouble finding the ground, and while I’ll still have some firm landings, I haven’t experienced the ubiquitous crunchers that the 700 likes to surprise you with. I think it’s because at a lower flare angle, the struts are perpendicular with the ground and they do a better job.
The -700 will give you a much better greaser than the -200 if you’re lucky. Especially if you flared a bit too much and end up relaxing some back pressure right before the wheels touch. YMMV
The -700 will give you a much better greaser than the -200 if you’re lucky. Especially if you flared a bit too much and end up relaxing some back pressure right before the wheels touch. YMMV
The 200 reminds me of a Multi-piston high powered GA airplane. Very similar feel as a Baron or 310.
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um...dont think this was a case of him thinking he is a super pilot superior to his civilian counterparts. i had over 1000hrs of CFI time when i upgraded and i had some of the same thoughts about how far would i let an FO go before i intervened ( and he is right, you will know). im a civ pilot and that story resonates with me because ive seen it too. being an RJ captain with a new FO is surprisingly like being a CFI some times and i think most of us have had a time or 2 like this ( i bet it is a daily occurrence for LCAs)
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I think many pilots are taught to way over flare the -700. This leads to difficulties in pitch control and finding the runway, and also means a delay in getting the nose down, which subsequently delays your reverser deployment on a short runway. In reality it only needs a degree or two more flare than the -200. Pull the power at 10-20 feet depending on energy state/trend. I have had less trouble finding the ground, and while I’ll still have some firm landings, I haven’t experienced the ubiquitous crunchers that the 700 likes to surprise you with. I think it’s because at a lower flare angle, the struts are perpendicular with the ground and they do a better job.
The -700 will give you a much better greaser than the -200 if you’re lucky. Especially if you flared a bit too much and end up relaxing some back pressure right before the wheels touch. YMMV
The -700 will give you a much better greaser than the -200 if you’re lucky. Especially if you flared a bit too much and end up relaxing some back pressure right before the wheels touch. YMMV
It used to get me a bit nervous with how some pilots flare the crap out of the 700... It leaves you with very little energy towards the bottom, and is also a VERY bad habit to get into for later in the career. You WILL tailstrike with that kind of technique in a 767 or 737-800+.
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It used to get me a bit nervous with how some pilots flare the crap out of the 700... It leaves you with very little energy towards the bottom, and is also a VERY bad habit to get into for later in the career. You WILL tailstrike with that kind of technique in a 767 or 737-800+.
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Reviving an old thread…but in reverse!
Has anyone found the transition from CRJ100/200 (or Challenger) difficult at first moving onto something larger.
Been flying the Challenger for almost 9 years and lands (sight picture) quite different to the aircraft I recently just started on (Global).
Landings in Sim were fine but I find in the real world my brain reverts back to Challenger world. Not flaring enough, flaring too late. Resulting in smacking the ground. Also not used to a lot more aircraft hanging under me.
I’ve only flown a couple legs so still looking for the right sight picture and need time to feel for it’s cues but I definitely feel like a crappy pilot and all messed up coming from something that lands much flatter.
Anyone else have this problem coming off many years of the 100/200/Challenger where it took a bit of time to get used to?
Has anyone found the transition from CRJ100/200 (or Challenger) difficult at first moving onto something larger.
Been flying the Challenger for almost 9 years and lands (sight picture) quite different to the aircraft I recently just started on (Global).
Landings in Sim were fine but I find in the real world my brain reverts back to Challenger world. Not flaring enough, flaring too late. Resulting in smacking the ground. Also not used to a lot more aircraft hanging under me.
I’ve only flown a couple legs so still looking for the right sight picture and need time to feel for it’s cues but I definitely feel like a crappy pilot and all messed up coming from something that lands much flatter.
Anyone else have this problem coming off many years of the 100/200/Challenger where it took a bit of time to get used to?
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