metx192

All of this advice is good. You may need to increase forward pressure when you bring the thrust back at 50’ because of the thrust vector. Also, taking a pinch of power off at 100’ can prevent a floater and help you make a spot landing. It also means you may have to flare a bit more, which I prefer over a near-3-point landing at a higher energy stage.

And sometimes you won’t want to chop all the power at 50 feet if there are high winds.

AirBear

Best technique I ever heard for landing the 200 is pretend you're doing a strafing run in a P-51 Mustang and then just think about flaring

The CRJ was my 1st PIC job since leaving the military. I was flying it before the 1500 hr rule so had some F/O's with less than 500 hours. I had never done any flight instruction in civilian or military life. I was very concerned about how to know when you need to take the jet away from the SIC. The experienced Captain's said "don't worry, you'll know". I was like but how, I don't want to take the jet away unnecessarily. Again they said "don't worry, you'll know. I'm like, well OK then. Fast forward to a CRJ-200 trip I'm flying with a 22 yr old F/O just off IOE. She had done all but 2 legs of IOE on the CRJ-700/900. Big difference in landing picture. She was flying as we were getting slam dunked into 18R (now 18C) in CLT. She flared the jet about 50 feet too high. My friends were right. As I saw airspeed rapidly going below Vref I called "My Controls" without even thinking about it. Managed to salvage the landing because of the long runway.

JetlifeB

Nice pickup boss

EELightning

Great Story! Although I’ll never be as good as a military pilot, I love these kind of “right stuff” stories. Don’t deny us your essence AirBear. There must be other instances of lives and careers saved by your thoughtless actions.

rickair7777

Since we're talking about the CRJ, don't ever try to salvage a bounced landing. It's entirely possible to get the landing logic into a mode which deploys the ground spoilers in the bounce, which will cause the plane to land instantly... and drive the main gear struts through the top of the wing. It's been done, if you google hard enough you can find pics.

ninerdriver

A more stark example: https://youtu.be/wVixpKAFoC0. Start at 1:55.

Gone Flying

um...dont think this was a case of him thinking he is a super pilot superior to his civilian counterparts. i had over 1000hrs of CFI time when i upgraded and i had some of the same thoughts about how far would i let an FO go before i intervened ( and he is right, you will know). im a civ pilot and that story resonates with me because ive seen it too. being an RJ captain with a new FO is surprisingly like being a CFI some times and i think most of us have had a time or 2 like this ( i bet it is a daily occurrence for LCAs)

AirBear

It wasn't the FO's fault, she got short changed on IOE. For those not familiar with the CRJ, the 700/900 have leading edge slats, the 200 does not so has a much more nose low attitude for landing. Just about any pilot would need more than 2 legs on IOE to learn the difference. Since our crew base was 200's only she didn't even need the legs on the larger jets, she could have done differences later on. I told her not to worry about it, just let her next Captain know about her IOE and that she didn't quite have the landing picture for the 200 yet.

I only took the controls one other time and that was when the F/O was asking me to because we were getting our rear ends kicked going down final with heavy rain. I told him it was his leg, tough it out, we were all counting on him. Then we got an airspeed split caution and the survey said it was his airspeed.

The only other issue I had with low time CRJ F/O's was energy management. These pilots knew their procedures inside out, I loved to do Sim checks with them, but they could be clueless when "cleared for the visual" on downwind. They'd try to turn base way too soon not realizing a jet doesn't have the drag props do.

Squawkbox2012

So I know the OP is talking the 200. For background, I have a lot of time in the 200 and the 900, not a lot in the 700. Been doing a lot of UA 700 flying and finding I’m hunting for the wheels more so in the 700.... curious if there is a reason for this as far as the aircraft dimensions perhaps? 900 I give a good flare and all is well.... 700 I feel like I’m hunting for the ground.... could just be me and probably is but it’s been consistent that way.... not fun when you’re trying to land on a short runway as is typical with the 700 compared to the 900..

rickair7777

That was my experience too. You'd be amazed at what I could do with a 200 by the time I was done with it. 900 I could land consistently where and how I wanted. 700 not so much.